[My] Life in Wisconsin

Roberta's BigAss Problem with me...

Sweet Sweet Pea;
Many have tried to say they 'support' me in all of this- (No, really)!
But then they end up not truly supporting me. (more like stabbing me in the back).


Much reminiscent of how I raised my kids and all. I never had anyone to say "shush, (insert childs name here), and listen to your mother"

Oh wait, I did too- But then Dad up and died on me when Z, J, and R were too little to remember...

Dennis was no good, being a child himself.
Besides he couldn't 'make his point' if he agreed with me;
OR, if we would ever present a united front as real parents in front of the girls.
Therefore they just made up their own little minds.


My boss, Gary, (Wouters) actually had the nerve to tell them straight out about more than a few things.

Sorry, but save for babysitting, mom was never a help to me either. And yes, those babysitting days helped a lot- But she had her own shit with me too.
If I begged her to stand by me, she would, reluctantly. But that is all. Guess I have yet to meet anyone who will stand up for ME, as their mother.

Maybe I should have beat them. Then they would have something to whine about. (Then again as adults, even most of those kids outgrow the BS).

I am enclosing this just so you know, in no uncertain terms, what has gone on between myself and Berta.

I would like to know however if she has said any further untruths within her f/b? (if you would anyway).

Love to you always.

XOXO
me

As always, the oldest posts start at the bottom...


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From Casey...
"About Roberta" hee hee hee

Thursday, July 28, 2011 4:39 PM
From:
"CaseyAnne DeGrave" <edbdkcn@gmail.com>
View contact details
To:
"ANNE, Anna-Anna," <onthefarm@prodigy.net>

About Roberta, from her f/b page    
"I am a very hard worker while I am work.... I tend to be a little lazy at home, but my house is clean at the same time. I love to go for long walks in the country cuz there's more to look at there, but I also like to chill with a good book or crossword puzzle every now and then too. I am a pretty straight forward person and not afraid to tell it like it is. I always stick to my morals and will stand up for what I believe is right. I am just lovin life!"


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Curious??? Check out my blog:
http://edbdkcn.multiply.com/

Have a wonderful day!!!

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Pea
I did not reply to Casey's note; though, if I remember correctly we did chat about it after a doctor appointment that day.

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From Chuck's page-
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002220897189
OBAMA= One Big A** Mistake America. If you thought health care was expensive.... Wait till its free!!!
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            Anne Yusvak You wouldn't say that if you couldn't afford a 3/4$ million transplant operation for your child.
            July 25 at 3:46am · LikeUnlike
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            Charles Chuck Jonsson It wont matter cause when its free . The government will tell you wether your child can live or die. When you can eat what you can own. where you can live. how many children you can have. how old you can be before they kill you ect.... every one was so excited about obama's free $$$, Now everyone is broke. SAY NO TO COMMUNISM!!!
            July 25 at 7:54am · LikeUnlike · 1No one currently likes this.
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            Anne Yusvak Chuck, dammit, you are making me crazy now...
            Tell me you don't really buy into that BS. You have never had such a child, and I am very happy for you- You have been very lucky you know. Trust me, it is HELL to go through; not only for the child! And how very long she had to wait- it damn near killed her, Chuck!
            Alas, Casey is still needing more to help her so what damage her pancreas had done earlier, suffice to say she may never recover from it all.
            HER PANCREAS WAS DIGESTING HER ENTIRE BODY FROM THE INSIDE OUT!
            (As her mother, I don't really give a flyin' f**k where the money came from, as long as my daughter is alive).
            FURTHERMORE, you are way off base if you are thinking that anything (Obamacare) past insuring our children has even kicked in yet. (It will, thankfully, in 2014).
            Casey is not the only person that this kind of legislation benefits.
            Wait til it gets to your doorstep- Perhaps someone you know and love.
            Arizona is already KILLING people that are on their transplant list. Boy, now there's the REAL "death panel", isn't it?
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            Charles Chuck Jonsson i am sorry for casey. And it is your right to feel how you like. But i do buy into my beliefs. And if you think it would change if Sam had it and not casey you are wrong. I still belive in fredom!!! Not over taxing and dependance on our goverment. Things happen and they suck but i would not sell out my country and freedom for it. No to communism!!! You are left i am right. Just the way it is.
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            Charles Chuck Jonsson if GOD decides its Sams time to go who am i to question his design??? Further more not caring where the $$$ comes from is just selfish. A drug dealer sells drugs to survive not careing where it came from. But familys of the users care.
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            Anne Yusvak Correction. You are wrong, not "right*... I am more liberal than you are. You are more Republican than I am. Go read the bill Chuck.
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            Charles Chuck Jonsson Thats what i said i am right wing republican you are left wing liberal. Lol
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            Anne Yusvak I believe that you believe you could be so nonchalant and flippant if any one of your children were that sick! You wouldn't be. or I have completely misjudged the man I thought you were. (That does not happen much, I promise you). Comparing being ill and needing your health made better is ludicrous too. Not even close. Casey never had a choice to be sicvk or not. Anyone that keeps on using HAS a choice- their parents did too as they were taught not to abuse either drugs OR alcohol.
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            Charles Chuck Jonsson you missed my point. But never the less being a man does not mean you have to belive what Ann believes. And fighting on face book is pointless. This is my page to speak however i feel. If you do not like it and can not play nice. Then just as in real life friendships can be deleted.
            July 25 at 10:58am · LikeUnlike
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            Anne Yusvak Let's see... I have one child fighting EVERY DAY just to stay alive- another that is doing her level best to end up like Michael Jackson. I am shaking my head at that kind of contemptible nonchalance regarding 'life'. While God may decide when it's time, we still have to love what he gave us and take care of it.
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            Anne Yusvak Heart before politics.
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            Charles Chuck Jonsson Fighting with me is not going to save your children or you. Call your govener
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            Anne Yusvak Now I am in the midst of blogging on my other site. So I will come back later. Bye. For now.
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            Charles Chuck Jonsson Have a good day
            SILVER FOX
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            Jennifer DeGrave Mullen How can you say "heart before politics"? Really? This is how someone with a heart speaks of her child?! End up like Michael Jackson?! Not everything needs an insult. Be nice.
            July 26 at 10:22pm · Like

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From: Anne <anna_loves_life@yahoo.com>
            To: Berta <robertagaither@yahoo.com>
            Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2011 12:33 PM
            Subject:
Berta. Berta. Berta.

If this sounds like I am upset or angry, methinks it is high time that I am.
Don't you EVER EVER speak/write to me like that again.
Did I lie about anything? "I don't think so!" (Any decent and honor-worthy psychiatrist will tell you that). Besides, you are the one that had the death wish, or have you conveniently forgotten that too?
Did the "pot/black" thing help you feel better? "I don't think so!"  See, I don't do pot. I did it in high school. I was always honest with all of my kids; furthermore I NEVER would even have thought of doing dope while I was pregnant.
Furthermore, I sure as hell haven't even had a drink in probably about 25 years! See Berta, those are 'stages' -and they are supposed to pass, (don't you agree?)...

Should you need an explanation re: my absence at your 'group therapy', here goes... FYI little girl... I have now broken 2+ ( + meaning = "probably more") vertebra this month, the last one just one day prior to you wanting; (correction, 'needing') me there, again.
Further, I had no way of calling you to let you know. You, very conveniently, left that info out.
And here I was going to bring the letter with me! (Silly me, WTF do you think I was thinking)?!?!
More, my AC had gone out in the car, and it was the better part of 95 degrees that afternoon.

Don't you give me that crap about talking 'about' you like that either.
I have NEVER said ANYTHING "about" you that I haven't already said to your face.  (& Do not forget that "I" always have the proof).

Just WHOM was it that said it was you that I was talking about anyway? (Get over yourself already, and you may even have a chance to make something yet out of yourself. Ya think?).
Then, with an odd twist of real class, you delete the letter you wrote to me?  So I can't even reply? That's cool Roberta, Real cool.  Seems as I got it anyway. ;-)

You, of all people, who worked on the Obama campaign would only find THAT to complain about? How very entertaining you are!
Again I must ask you, just what made you think it was about you? Do you honestly not recall how very many people call me "Mom"?
As far as dumping me from your page, you can't even make your mind up about that... YOU came to me, (or don't you remember that either)? Of course, you had also told me that the 2nd OWI had woken you up.

I am SO done pussy-footing around you to catering to your every whim, especially to the "poor poor Roberta" thing.
You made your bed, you sleep in it.
MY hands are thrown up.
My heart is broken on you, wasted over you, for the very last time. You and I and God all know that you were raised much much better than that.

Which one of us was/IS it that actually "raised" every single one of her children? Whether or not you paid attention was your choice.
Your choice. And you blew it again?
I should not be surprised...

Until then, grow the hell up.
Go away, do anything, but just leave ME the hell out of it.
You have blamed me for something I had no control over, for the last time.
"Mom"
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Here's your note, in it's entirety, just in case you may think I am bluffing.
(And no, I will not tell you how I got it).
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:05 AM
"Are you serious? That is how you are going to talk about me on Charles Chuck Johnsson's wall? If you have something to say about me, you say it to me... Not to God knows who... But, anything you say in reguards to that is the pot calling the kettle black... If this is how you are going to treat me, we do not need to talk... I am deleting from my facebook... You are not good for my recovery being that you cannot even take any responsibility in trying to help your child at all... Not even write a letter... that was all i asked... Instead you badmouth me... Sorry you don't understand."
end note from Roberta
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Also know that I pulled this off too:
Dated, February 6, 2011
" my second OWI woke me up,"

Plus, "I have accepted the fact that the entire situation I was angry about was my own damnded fault and I am sorry I blamed you all this time"

And still one more, "I really do regret a lot of the choices i made, but I can promise I am doing better "
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I repeat:
"When you can mature into a respectful woman that I raised, and give me the respect that I have not only earned, but deserve, just let me know."

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From: Anne <anna_loves_life@yahoo.com>
    To: Berta <robertagaither@yahoo.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 8:12 AM
    Subject:
Re: Urgent Recall Action

I am not mean. You already know that. But I sure as hell am done molly~coddling you; or making excuses for you, (or your sisters).

All the lies have come home to roost. The buck stops here. I am done fighting simply for my children to love me. (Actions speak louder than words).
As I stated back in February: "As you well know, I am very boring. I have heard many times back in my face, that I have never changed. Have not, and will not ever change. If that is too hard for you to deal with then that is the way it is. I can do nothing about how you feel. To be honest, at this point I am also quite unwilling to."
I stand by my written words. I meant them then, and I mean them now.
Now this comes? But wait... You yell at me, and then want me to apologize for being upset?  Wake up little girl. You are 31 years old. It's high time you did. Whose fault is it that you do not even know your own mother well enough to know a few things about her? Not only about this, but you have NO idea how much garbage, still, comes back to me.
Again, "you should be happy you are working on yourself, and whatever. Again."
When that is done, then maybe you will work on salvaging a relationship with me. But I will be honest and tell you this, it is not going to be easy.
Again I ask, do you "Feel better?"

--- On Tue, 7/19/11, Berta <robertagaither@yahoo.com> wrote:

    From: Berta <robertagaither@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Urgent Recall Action
    To: "Anne" <anna_loves_life@yahoo.com>
    Date: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 9:03 AM

    Why are you so mean?
   

From: Anne <anna_loves_life@yahoo.com>
    To: Berta <robertagaither@yahoo.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 8:12 AM
    Subject: Re: Urgent Recall Action
    Feel better? I do not feel like playing this same inane game (over and over for how many years?). Nor do I feel like playing some idiotic semantics game with you. As always, you pass the buck- and right over anyone elses feelings, including your own mothers.
    This is no fun.
    But hey, you should be happy you are working on yourself, and whatever. Again.


    --- On Tue, 7/19/11, Berta <robertagaither@yahoo.com> wrote:


        From: Berta <robertagaither@yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: Urgent Recall Action
        To: "Anne" <anna_loves_life@yahoo.com>
        Date: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 7:32 AM

        I am not going to apologize for my feelings... I am currently working on self esteem issues, and teaching myself to stop calling people names that may lower their self esteem...  I will apologize however if  I said anything out of line... which I don't think I did... I just said I did not appreciate being called that, joking or not...  I need to be able to express my feelings too... and it hurt to be called that... joking or not... I have made some mistakes, yes, but I am not unintelligent... We both have feelings... sorry if I hurt yours....
        Love,
        Berta


        From: Anne <anna_loves_life@yahoo.com>
        To: Berta <robertagaither@yahoo.com>
        Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 10:40 AM
        Subject: Re: Urgent Recall Action
        Well holy shit Berta. Where the hell did this come from? I most certainly did NOT mean it to be so repulsive to you. Cool off. Did I really need to add the 'hehehe'? You know me well enough that I have NEVER used the word ninny without it being tongue-in-cheek. And if you don't, that is YOUR fault.
        How dare you forget that Mom has deep feelings too!


        --- On Mon, 7/18/11, Berta <robertagaither@yahoo.com> wrote:


            From: Berta <robertagaither@yahoo.com>
            Subject: Re: Urgent Recall Action
            To: "Anne" <anna_loves_life@yahoo.com>
            Date: Monday, July 18, 2011, 9:48 AM

            I am not a ninny... Just saying what I feel I NEED to do and what the jail feels I NEED to do are 2 different things... I know I NEED to vote... I am not unintelligent and not a simpleton... And I do not appreciate being called that.....
            Love,
            Berta
            
            From: Anne <anna_loves_life@yahoo.com>
            To: Berta <robertagaither@yahoo.com>
            Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 12:33 PM
            Subject: Re: Urgent Recall Action
            You NEED to vote you ninny.

            XOXO
            me

            PS Rick IS a felon. he can no longer ever vote.

            --- On Sun, 7/17/11, Berta <robertagaither@yahoo.com> wrote:


                From: Berta <robertagaither@yahoo.com>
                Subject: Re: Urgent Recall Action
                To: "Anne" <anna_loves_life@yahoo.com>
                Date: Sunday, July 17, 2011, 7:54 AM

                I will make the call today to see if  they will let me... They don't usually let you do things you don't NEED to do though... I'm sure you remember from when Rick was on bracelet... But yes, will try to get there.
                Love,
                Berta


                From: Anne <anna_loves_life@yahoo.com>
                To: Berta <robertagaither@yahoo.com>
                Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2011 12:11 PM
                Subject: Re: Urgent Recall Action

                Sorry Berta, I wasn't thinking when I sent it to you.
                Can you at least get to the polls on Tuesday, or are you considered a felon now? I doubt that.
                XOXO
                Mama D


                --- On Sat, 7/16/11, Berta <robertagaither@yahoo.com> wrote:


                    From: Berta <robertagaither@yahoo.com>
                    Subject: Re: Urgent Recall Action
                    To: "Anne" <anna_loves_life@yahoo.com>
                    Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 10:33 PM

                    
                    I would love to volunteer but jail wont let me right now because it's not court ordered... They didn't want to let me volunteer at the AA central office fundraiser either.... But since it was AA they allowed it... I can try, but don't get off bracelet until Sept 17th... Earlier if they decide I am following rules and they need the equipment...
                    Thank you... Will look into it....
                    Love,
                    Berta

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So, there ya have it, Sweet Pea. I think I have it all in order- but am sleepy yet and I'm not going over it all again.

XOXO
Me