http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/us/politics/09giffords.html?_r=1&hp
January 8, 2011
Congresswoman Giffords Shot in Tucson
By J. DAVID GOODMAN
A congresswoman from Arizona was shot on Saturday along with several others during at public event at a grocery store in Tuscon, according to her spokesman, C.J. Karamargin. The Tucson Citizen reported that Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, a Democrat, had been shot at close range in the head.
Ms. Giffords, 40, ... was taken to University Medical Center in Tucson, the trauma center for the area, about 10 miles away.
CNN quoted a public information officer as saying that 12 people had been injured in all.
The shooting occurred at a Safeway supermarket in northwest Tuscon as Ms. Giffords hosted an event, called “Congress on Your Corner," to allow members of the 8th Congressional District to meet her individually. She has held several events since first taking office in January 2007. At one such event in 2009, a protester was removed by police when his pistol fell on the supermarket floor. This was her first event since her re-election to a third term in November.
Last March, her Tucson office was vandalized a few hours after the House vote overhauling the nation’s health care system, the authorities said.
Earlier events in Tucson, Oro Valley, Green Valley, Sierra Vista, and Douglas had attracted between 75 and 150 people, according to a statement announcing the event.
Ms. Giffords was interviewed on Fox news on Friday to talk about a bill to cut to congressional salaries by five percent.
ReplyDeleteWhat an effing travesty!
More killed along with her...
ReplyDeleteWho takes her position now?
ReplyDeleteConflicting reports now- She may not be deceased...
ReplyDeleteSweet Heidi;
imho, it is not the guns.but the cracked and crazed attitudes (and the demented humans) behind them.
There will be n update from the hospital in about 20 minutes, according to CNN.
I have not agreed with much that Boehner has ever stated, but today he did say that an attack on one member of congress is an attack on ALL of them.
This is very true.
And indeed very sad.
God, there is even an injured CHILD!
Sick sick sick...
ReplyDeleteThey did say there is a 21 year male in custody...
Sad day in Arizona, no she is not confirmed dead, but in surgery, she was shot at point blank range. I'm watching all info, praying for these families. A lot of speculation going,,,,, on targeting her because she votes with President Obama on health care and the stimulus package. shakes head, I'm just sick about this.
ReplyDeleteYou are not alone Sweet Pamela;
ReplyDeleteYou are right too that is all speculation at this point, but my guts do not like what they are feeling either.
As Heidi has stated, they are not making any friends...
http://starfishred.multiply.com/journal/item/3503
Then again, there are loose cannons almost everywhere.
ReplyDeleteWondering if those who condone these actions, and speak out loudly for people to do them, will ever be held responsible for their part in these things?
wow, rough week to be a politician...
ReplyDeleteJohn Wheeler (not REALLY a politician)
Gabrielle Giffords (AZ)
John Roll (AZ)
Anthony Seminerio (NY)
Harry Hallman (Mt Pleasant NC)
William F. Walsh (NY)
Frank Thurman (Tulsa OK)
William R. Ratchford (CT)
Kate Ebli (MI)
William F. Kearns Jr (NH)
Oleksandr Korobchynsky(Ukraine)
Reynaldo Dagsa (Manila)
Raj Kishore Kesri (BJP)
Salman Taseer (Punjab)
Jiri Dienstbier (Czech)
General Vang Pao (Laos)
And not to demean the others in any way....
Mary Bono Mack (CA- Shot by camera)
Arizona just mught want to reconsider their concealed weapons law.
ReplyDeleteFor a conservative state, the law is quite liberal...
Just sayin'
I doubt if those who condone actions of killing, will ever be held responsible, they usually aren't. If this is about her backing Obama on health care and the stimulus package, that's really sick. It's funny, people who hate Obama will never admit they're wrong about some of the things they believe about him. The dumbest thing I was ever told is that Obama is fighting to get a bill passed to teach elementary school kids to be gay. When I laughed, my friend from high school said he had to get off the phone and he'd call me later.
ReplyDeleteThe same holds true for the other side, I deleted one woman in Multiply that I liked for the most part, but she was so hateful when it came to politics that she scared me LOL. In one of her blogs she wished Palin would die a painful death. I don't like Palin at all, I think she's egotistic, greedy and condescending to her followers, but I don't wish her dead, much less a painful death.
That the people that incite others are not held accountable is also quite sick. And right now I wonder how many of these 'people' are rewriting thier night 'news' banter...
ReplyDeleteI get mean and nasty also, given that my own daughter will lose much by this possible repeal. I am more than passionate about the Health Care issue, and will continue to be.
Do I wish, or have I ever wished, a slow and painful death on anyone? Absolutely not!
Like yourself, I do wish Palin would slink back to her little hole though. To lie, REPEATEDLY, to people is unforgivable.
Palin’s defiant “Don’t retreat. Instead — reload!” tweet came after the signing of the health care bill, which she opposed. (From here: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/1229/The-Top-10-political-quotes-of-2010/Christine-O-Donnell-I-m-not-a-witch).
You said, "people who hate Obama will never admit they're wrong"
Why is that? I still believe that our President is acting on his best thoughts for us all.
Annie, I too believe our president is acting on his best thoughts for all of us. I truly believe the people I know personally (in the mid-west) who hate Obama are racists. I grew up in the mid-west and still have contact with friends and family back there. Growing up in the mid-west during the 50's & 60's there was a lot of prejudice about religion, race, politicians and sexual preference. Judging from my friends back there and some of my contacts on Multiply and Facebook in the mid-west, I think there is still a lot of prejudice even though they deny it. Heck, if I didn't move away from there and the thinking back there, I'd probably be a much different person than I am now (and not so good of a person). You don't know that you might be thinking wrong, if everyone you're around thinks the same way -- know what I mean?
ReplyDeleteI don't blame you for getting mean and nasty about the possible repeal, after all you and your daughter have high stakes in the health care issue. Which reminds me, I still haven't heard back from Bonnie about her daughter Janet. I may have to start bugging her to let me know if your and your daughter's blogs are helping Janet.
I saw this on the news this morning Anna and my jaw dropped mate, what drives some one to do some thing like that ( Not a real question Anna ) Pam said "Sad day in Arizona" I say what a sad day for all in a any society whenever some one else thinks they have the right to end other peoples lives because they may disagree with their policies whatever they may be. All I can say here is sorry to all the families involved
ReplyDeleteI CANNOT BELIEVE THEY STILL HAVEN'T TAKEN DOWN HIS SITE!!!!
ReplyDeleteThe suspect's site on youtube, after getting the info from CNN on his name, wanted to see if they shut it down so more crazies can't access it... I guess not yet.... However, from the reports and everything online here, he doesn't make sense at all...
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/f/0/3L1lsLU-kUw
I sure hope they go for the death penalty after those 6 souls were lost, one of them a child... Senseless killing, mindless violence, and incomprehensible thoughts.... I hope the police can get to him and try to at least figure out if the boy is crazy, stupid, or mentally disabled... Nothing is an excuse, though, and I hope they don't try to do the Not Guilty by reason of INSANITY... That's just the dumbest finding in our judicial system... Even if they were insane, still should get prison... Not some country club sanitarium....
May those that lost their lives to this nutjob rest in peace, may their families find some measure of comfort and may they fry this maggot that perpetrated this atrocity.
ReplyDeleteoxox,
snotball
Hi Anna.....my hubby and i were just shaken when we tuned in to CNN and heard about this. None of it makes
ReplyDeletesense at all, does it?? It's so sad that so many good people have to suffer at the hands of these nut jobs
just so they can get some point across!!! Prayers to all concerned.
I was so happy to hear from you...couldn't imagine who it was!!!! LOL Took me awhile....it was funny. Hubby
didn't know what to think...haha
Hugs & blessings to you and your family. I hope this new year will treat you well in all aspects of your life.
Love u.....Bev
I think there's much more to this than we'll ever see.
ReplyDeleteI'd seen the first report and then commented to someone on my blog (interestingly enough, "Justice."
"lurchie wrote today at 8:04 PM
Of course not, Jack. But that's the way it is.
I can be idealistic until the cows come home, that won't change reality.
I just saw an update, (I posted on your blog).
With all the miscreants, and crimes here, I wonder if he's taking the rap for someone else? It's been done before.
initiativestain wrote today at 6:23 PM
Regardless it this is not what I see as politics Sig.
lurchie
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lurchie wrote today at 6:20 PM
So far, this is as close as I've gotten. I remember, however, that the Congresswoman stated specifically where the money COULD be accessed.
http://www.scienceprogress.org/2010/11/death-panels-in-arizona/
lurchie
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lurchie wrote today at 6:05 PM
Jack, what I find interesting, is that I don't see LIBERALS going around shooting CONSERVATIVES.
Another thing, and maybe you can help my memory.
Was this the Congresswoman who was going to take on the Governor of this State regarding the two people who died as the 'budget' won't allow paying for transplants? 97 waiting in line (currently) to die.
I'll try to see if I can find it.
initiativestain
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initiativestain wrote today at 4:37 PM
look at what happened near your state today Sig...there is something wrong with this picture with two are shot as you know.
I also commented in Jack's blog:
"lurchie
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lurchie wrote today at 7:42 PM
"A San Francisco man upset with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's support of health care reform pleaded guilty to threatening the Democratic congresswoman and her family, calling her directly on March 25 and threatening to destroy her Northern California home if she voted for health care reform.
In July, a California man known for his anger over left-leaning politics engaged in a shootout with highway patrol officers after planning an attack on the ACLU and another nonprofit group. The man said he wanted to "start a revolution" by killing people at the ACLU and the Tides Foundation.
During his campaign effort to unseat Giffords in November, Republican challenger Jesse Kelly held fundraisers where he urged supporters to help remove Giffords from office by joining him to shoot a fully loaded M-16 rifle. Kelly is a former Marine who served in Iraq and was pictured on his website in military gear holding his automatic weapon and promoting the event."
This is the kind of world we all live in. There is no escape from it.
lurchie
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lurchie wrote today at 7:28 PM
Arizona is my primary home, Jack. I think there's an update on this~~.
lurchie
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lurchie wrote today at 7:26 PM
Jack, it's as I suspected.
"The House of Representatives will postpone next week's vote to repeal President Barack Obama's healthcare reform legislation due to the shooting of Democratic Representative Gabrielle Giffords, House Republican Leader Eric Cantor said on Saturday.
"All legislation currently scheduled to be considered by the House of Representatives next week is being postponed so that we can take whatever actions may be necessary in light of today's tragedy," Cantor said in a prepared statement.
Giffords had received threats for her support of the healthcare reform bill and her office in Tucson was vandalized after the measure passed Congress last March.
Repeal of the law is a priority of Republicans who won control of the House in November elections, and it is expected to pass the House easily when the vote takes place.
The effort is not expected to advance in the Democratic-controlled Senate, however.
Among the dead were a federal judge and a 9-year-old girl. Officials said 12 people were wounded, down from a previous estimate of 13.
ReplyDeleteSAD
And we still don't know if Gifford will recover, or to what extent.
ReplyDeleteVery sad. We must find a way to stop this.
sad and why i hate to see militant political people spreading hate and religious zealots as well .
ReplyDeleteHi Everyone...
ReplyDeleteA quick note here from Mom. She is unable to access Multiply right now on her computer. Something is wrong, and it doesn't make sense at all. The reason this is so bizarre is that I'm using the exact same network she is using, in the same hotel room, less than 20' away from her, and I'm able to pull up the site just fine... Hmmm...
Very frustrating for her right now, but she's bound and determined to get to the bottom of it so that she can come on and reply to everyone's comments... I offered her my computer to use for the moment, but she is absolutely not going to be taken down and defeated by a PC! :) GO MOM GO!!!! Kick that computer's butt!
Hopefully we can get this resolved quickly and she can come on soon...
Love and Hugs to everyone!
~Casey
And of course:
XOXO
~"ME" (aka "The Mom")
LOL.....
ReplyDeleteDownload a program called CC cleaner from Here:
http://download.cnet.com/ccleaner/?tag=contentMain;contentBody;1d
the correct download button says: Download Now (2.84MB)
now... install that program.
once it is installed click on the applications tab of the left.
UNCLICK anything checked under "utilities"
then click "run cleaner"
it might take a minute then it will show you a list of what it deleted.... you can now close it and try to access multiply again.
ReplyDeleteSweet Pea;
Casey is researching each of these people. (But right now is sawing logs). hehehe
Having been so very far out of the loop, I could not even explain half of these.
Thank you.
XOXO
Me
Sweet Sharlee;
ReplyDeleteWait? - - - - - -
I am from the Midwest- (Wisconsin), and honestly I do not see so much as you have described.
Maybe too I don't get out often enough to see it.
There IS a huge Catholic population in/around Green Bay- (Poor things) <- But that's a whole 'nother blog.
But very, very judgmental too
As far as the Health Care repeal goes, you are right. We DO have some very high stakes. And I imagine I will be getting hotter and hotter about that all, all over again. (And yes, the research itself is an awesome task-
Talk about getting an education! hehehe
Now, off with you- Go bug Miss Bonnie- I have been wondering about Miss Janet ever since you'd first told me.
XOXO
Me
ReplyDeleteMr. Lester;
After Casey had read me about this young person, I can see the illiteracy- He said he loves to read, but his problem is obviously with interpretation and comprehension; (and simply knowing the difference between right and wrong).
I am real sorry for her. And like yourself, I cannot imagine the shock and grief of all the loved ones involved, including that of his own family...
XOXO
Me
Sweet Sleeping Mo-Bobo;
ReplyDeleteI just checked and it is still up. Very very weird...
Senseless. Mindless. Incomprehensible.
You have chosen some very apt words for this all, and yet, you are also right that 'insanity' is not an excuse. Ever.
You and I both know that some jury will find him guilty and send him to an institution-
XOXO
Mama D.
ReplyDeleteSweet Snotball Sister of mine;
What a beautiful prayer!
Thank you
XOXO
Me
Sweet Bev;
ReplyDeleteYou are right. It can't ever make sense when someone dies for no reason, save for someone else playing god.
After checking out his youtube crap, there really is no point to have gotten across.
Or maybe it is just us who do not understand such people and what they write.
As for your mail... hehehe
I'd missed your birthday and was darned if I'd miss Christmas too!
XOXO
Me
Mr Lurch;
ReplyDeleteI have thought about the 'fall guy' thing too. Perhaps they would have singled him out *because* of his mental status- (which something is "off to me).
The video you have referred to I have not seen. But I did write about this horrendous "Death Panel" as it came about in Arizona, back in November.
http://flintville.multiply.com/journal/item/1124
You had commented on that post of mine, "When the big bad wind blows, even they can't do anything to help."
How sadly appropriate your words are even now...
XOXO
Me
I sent you a Multiply PM. I also emailed Bonnie again.
ReplyDelete6 killed.
ReplyDelete14 others wounded.
Total of 20
From here: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/01/09/132782471/tucsons-victims-young-and-old-public-servants-and-citizens?ft=1&f=1001
"The dead victims of the Tuscon shooting attack represented a range of people that might be found at any congressional constituents' event.
They included a 9-year-old girl just elected to her school council who wanted to see a real politician close up; a federal judge who happened to be nearby and stopped to see his friend the congresswoman; a congressional aide responsible for community outreach, and several senior citizens, representative of the demographic of the nation's most active voters.
Of all the tragedies, the death of 9-year-old Christina Taylor Green seemed to cut the deepest, as children's deaths invariably do.
The grade-schooler was recently elected president of the student council at the Mesa Verde Elementary School.
According to someone who knew her, she wanted to be a veterinarian. But she was outside the Safeway supermarket at Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' "Congress on Your Corner" event because she was also interested in politics.
Her grief-stricken father, John Green, a scout for the Los Angeles Dodgers, told an interviewer through a voice that broke at times:
She was born on 9/11. So she came in on a tragedy and she went out on a tragedy. Those nine years in between were very special. We're all going to miss Christina. We were four people. Now we're three. All I can say is we're going to be strong for each other. And we're going to honor Christina because she was a beautiful strong little girl. And we're going to remember all the good things about her."
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ReplyDeleteWe will know with time. Already she is following simple commands- (Sometimes even stroke petients are not recovered enough on the following day to follow simple commands). So these are all good signs Lurchie.
You are right too about must find a way.
Where there is a will, there IS a way.
XOXO
Me
ReplyDeleteDr Freak
It is terribly sad for us all.
And you have hit the nail on the head with both the names. The zealots and the militants.
And neither are that far apart from the other...
XOXO
Me
All better now!
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Thank you for posting this so people knew I wasn't completely ignoring them!
XOXO
Me
Thanks Pea. But I didn't have to do this. Restarting for the 3rd time was the charm...
ReplyDeleteXOXO
Mama D.
I can't read it as it is only for members of NJP.
ReplyDeleteThank you for thinking of me anyway.
XOXO
Me
tell her not to google pictures of bono... well, actually she could but your know.
ReplyDeleteThis is so sad. His words made me cry. he is right, they WILL be strong..... because they are good and decent people. No one should lose a child.
ReplyDeleteThey said that they still need to be alert for the side effects of swelling, bleeding, and secondary infection but she was alert enough to follow commands when they brought her in.
ReplyDeleterestarting probably did the same things which was flush your cache, your dns, and your temp files.
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