Reincarnation is in all religions.
- Why do people find reincarnation a difficult concept to accept?
- Can reincarnation be validated?
- Are we born with certain values and ideals?
So many many questions, as one of my favorite believers truly delivers in this interview with "Life Positive".
Brian Weiss Speaks Out on Past-Life Therapy
Having accidentally encountered past lives and reincarnation, Dr Brian Weiss took time to accept what came to pass. He went on to research many such mystical and religious ideas, turning him into a doctor who [is] enlightened.
An interview with the author of bestselling books such as "Many Lives, Many Masters", excerpted from Voices of Truth (Full Circle)
Treating patients by guiding them through recollections of their previous lives is just about the last thing Dr Brian Weiss thought he would be doing.
A prominent South Florida psychiatrist, before the age of 35 he was the first Chief of Psychiatry at Mount Sinai Medical Center, and a professor at the University of Miami's medical school.
He was publishing papers and becoming a nationally recognized expert on psychopharmacology and considered himself the kind of guy who rarely gave much thought to anything mystical, philosophical or spiritual.
One patient changed all that. Weiss calls her Catherine in his first best-selling book, "Many Lives, Many Masters" (1988), eight years after he began treating the young woman...
There is SO much more; history, and all else, within that article.
Please read on at www.lifepositive.com/Mind/personal-growth/past-life/brian-weiss.asp
I eagerly read that book when it first came out- Luckily stumbling onto it as I bided time, waiting for my neighbor to join us down at the mall.
Incidentally I was the ONLY person in the "New Age" section of the bookstore. Now, 20-some years later, you will hear many times the phrase, "Oh, excuse me!" -as we bump bodies and reach over/under everyone else that is there; and perusing a now full selection of writings by reputable people.
What a nice thing to see; as people truly are turning INSIDE themselves to search for obvious knowledge, truth and trust.
What follows in the article could have been entitled "Many Questions, Many Answers"
Please click here.
Happy Sunday to all! Have a "wunnaful" one!
XOXO,
Me
Don't know where you got this but reincarnation is not part of Catholicism nor part of Christianity as a whole.
ReplyDelete.* Reincarnation: The individual soul survives and is reincarnated into another body. Reincarnation is usually connected with the next belief, pantheism, by the notion of karma: that after the soul has fulfilled its destiny, and learned its lessons and become sufficiently enlightened, it reverts to a divine status or is absorbed into (or realizes its timeless identity with) the divine* . -- <---This is not what God says will happen to us when we die.
Thank you for stopping by, and for "your" own definition; which somehow morphed into something else.
ReplyDelete(Like *you* actually "knowing" what God says). That's pretty good!
Nor did you include what religion you are. I am guessing that you do not believe that we can all "COEXIST" ?
God is God, in ANY 'religion'
And for your total knowledge of Christianity and Catholicism.
Do you have a degree, or just your opinion?
Just askin'...
Perhaps if you would have taken the time to actually do any of the *clicks* contained in this blog, you might have learned a little something.
XOXO
Me
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Yes. I am Christian, nee Catholic even.
Yes too. I also believe, fully, in Karma. http://flintville.multiply.com/journal/item/67
I just do not believe we are reincarnated. I think I am accepting of every ones beliefs though, difference, the spice of life
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Sweetie;
ReplyDeleteEveryone has that right. Methinks I like the way you have 'spiced' up my page! hehehe
See? now it's a simple matter to coexist, isn't it?!
Love to you!
XOXO
Me
Listen, with or without my degree I could easily do what I did for expediency's sake - Google, 'what does the bible say about reincarnation?'. There you'll find a plethora of biblical sources explaining both the meaning of reincarnation and the fact that Christianity does not include reincarnation .....and the fact that it goes against everything God described for us.
ReplyDeleteThis is not the first time this question has been asked nor is it a tough one to answer.
You've strayed from God's teachings and chosen your own.....your choice and I don't feel like arguing about it with you. So believe whatever feels good for you but at least have the decency and integrity to acknowledge that your original statement is plainly inaccurate and not true. ALL religions do NOT accept or believe in reincarnation. It's simply an untrue statement.
Exacalackly........love to you my Sweet Friend.
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ReplyDeleteDo the click(s) Mr Touchy and Obnoxious.
Thanks? again for stopping by. hehehe
I am not lost, nor do I need you shoving any of your beliefs down my throat.
XOXO
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Am thinking I need to put this picture in also...
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LOL
ReplyDeleteYou believe reincarnation is in all religions. While factually incorrect, you have every right to believe it, and even broadcast it if you choose. And in no way would that be considered a case of you shoving your religion down my throat. Hence therefore, when I say I believe you are lost, making up your own rules, and factually incorrect, then again in no way am I shoving my religion down your narrow-minded looney liberal ideological proverbial 'throat'.
Can't wait to see the next fantasy your mind creates.
xoxoxoxo
ReplyDeleteHad you read the article- or the book, you would not be laughing at anything/anyone (which, by the way, is quite less than respectable for an upstanding Christian like yourself).
Just sound out the words if you cannot understand them...
I have wonderful fantasies, but much prefer reality.
Again. TTFN.
XOXO
Bye
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Did I see your name on a copy of.... Hmmmm... which bible was that again?
hehehe
ReplyDeleteTime for me to fly.
Fight nice.
XOXO
Me
Perhaps you would get further if you were to present a logical, thoughtful, and informed commentary on the CLICK rather than flinging insults without having read the article.
ReplyDeleteFYI, no where does it say WHERE the new body is in reincarnation. BUT one DOES go to heaven and gets to "live again on the right hand of the lord" in the bible
so one COULD say that was reincarnation.
Now be NICE. The bible DOES say to be nice.
Anna, I'm afraid I must decline your heart-felt request. Discussion of religious and spiritual topics just gets some people all worked up, tends to make more enemies than friends and, unless the person with whom you're having the discussion is on the same page as you are, generally accomplishes nothing. My personal spiritual belief's tend to emphasize things such as tolerance, forgiveness, honesty and charity. They tend to consider anger, greed, lust and back-biting as spiritually counter-productive. But I'll go into them no further, at least in the presence of the general public. I've made that mistake too many times before.
ReplyDeleteOk, I'm back... hehehe
ReplyDeleteLoving all of your 'perhaps' My Sweet Pea.
XOXO
Me
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The bible does say do unto...
hehehe
Go Pack.
Mr Whatzit!
ReplyDeleteI can hardly argue with you on any of what you have said. Perhaps though, what you have neglected to say-
It is enough for me to know that you, among many others here, do truly agree with reincarnation my friend.
I don't care much about the fighting, bickering etc.
But I am no pacifist either. Daddy always said to stand up for my beliefs.
And so I have!
XOXO
me
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Besides, living alone, it is hard to have a decent argument with the dog.
The Lord said "I am the way and the truth"
ReplyDeleteIt was Herod who said "Truth?- What is Truth"?, when explaining his point of view to Jesus that you have your truths and I have mine. Jesus was right and Herod is wrong. There is truth and anything less is a lie. Reincarnation is NOT part of Christianity nor is it even 'kinda' part of Christianity. People have forever attempted to make God's words fit them instead of choosing to make themselves fit God's words.
As far as hoping to 'get further' with this particular blogger. . . . fat chance. Although I do truly hope to see her come towards the light some day, she has such a long track history of dismissing anything anyone else says. And typically asks for college credentials as though that amounts to credibility or wisdom. She is like the scribes and pharisees. Wrapped in her own pride and prejudice and blinded by such.
ReplyDeleteI guess you told me.
ReplyDeleteOK.
Now really I have got to go.
Get that nap in ya know.
hehehe
My Dad told me to stand up for my beliefs, too. But he also said "Never discuss religion or politics." Both bits of advice have served me well (when I've actually adhered to them.)
ReplyDeleteAnyway, what's the point of having an argument with someone who's mind is already made up. I live alone, too, except for a couple cats. We argue frequently, and let me tell you, I NEVER win.
xoxoxoxox
ReplyDeletedisapproving : the behavior of people who do things that they tell other people not to do : behavior that does not agree with what someone claims to believe or feel
ReplyDeletehttp://www.learnersdictionary.com/search/hypocrisy
If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.
1 John 4:20
Finally, all of you, live in harmony with one another; be sympathetic, love as brothers, be compassionate and humble.
1 Peter 3:8
Make sure that nobody pays back wrong for wrong, but always try to be kind to each other and to everyone else.
1 Thessalonians 5:15
For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer. If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus.
1 Timothy 4-6
Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.
Colossians 3:12
All, whether educated or uneducated, can and do make their own interpretations of the Bible. And in my interpretation, I see the clues there in plain site. Sure....it may not come right out and say "YES...reincarnation is true", but it is there. The Bible was written in such a way that people are meant to actually read it, re-read and then read it again before its understanding comes across to us. And when you are ready to finally understand the meaning of something....you WILL know it.
ReplyDeleteOne of the places that shows ME that clue about Reincarnation is in Ecclesiastes. It's a short chapter with several eye opening thoughts.
Chapter 1
(7) All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.
(9) The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
(10) Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? It hath been already of old time, which was before us.
(11) There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
Now....this is pretty plain to me.
Sweet Sister Anne,
ReplyDeleteWhile I am not so sure about reincarnation, I will not argue yay or nay with you. Know that I honor your opinion and your right to have your own opinion and our right to agree or disagree with each other. Some posters get stuck on one theme and they're right and that's all there is to it.
I love you my beautiful Sister and I pray God's blessings and the blessings of our Creator upon you. (There are those posting here that will take umbrage to that statement also.)
oxox,
foreveryoursnotballsister
You have now made me smile TWICE in a few moments! hehehe
ReplyDeleteYou are right about close-minded people and their minds being made up. I could actually write a book about those kinds of people.
My own heart and soul tell me, even logically, that if we think we are only here for 70 years or so- in the BILLIONS of years that the ENTIRE universe has been here (and whether you believe in creationism or science), well, it doesn't even begin to compute.
We have ALL been told that we WILL live again; no matter what religion we practice- or not.
To think that any God would waste His/Her time on creating more and more souls is almost lunacy!
IMHO, We get to come back until we have gotten it right.
*IF* it's OK to have my own opinion that is.
XOXO
Me
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Your Pa was b/right. But he will have to excuse me, as I wish to believe whatever I will.
"long track history...
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Pride
prejudice (?)
Blinded ?
Things that make ya go "HMMM"....
Viewing History for User earnesttphdthcItemMost Recent View Reincarnation is in ALL religions.12 hours ago YU-55 (No, it's not an abortion pill).23 hours ago **ORIGINAL LINK REPAIRED** - Conservative Cruelty and Fake Foreclosures.145 days ago Homepage145 days ago Walker's Wisconsin. (Not mine).193 days ago Pages:1
What an odd, odd, person to lay claim to knowing me so well.
XOXO
Anne
And if it is on someone else's page, I would thank you for remembering little old me!
I must have made some kind of impression! hehehe
And yes, I thank you for that!
ReplyDeleteFYI, Reincarnation was just one of the things removed from the bible by man- I believe in the 6th century, AD of course.
As were all, strike that, MOST OF the chapters written by women.
Do the research- Then you are welcome to come and shoot off your mouth.
XOXO
Me
Sweet Pea;
ReplyDeleteI love that you have taken the time to study things that are not of your beliefs. I tried, and then got them all muddled together- so I claim to be Christian- (given that I really do believe in the story); and given that I do believe that the only part of the Bible written by God are the 10 commandments.
But as far as being "One" religion, I do not believe that about myself any longer. Like I said, they all got muddled together.
Kind of like us all, who for one reason or another- have been brought together to share so well.
For a non-Christian, you are almost infinitely more knowledgeable than I am about the bible.
As always, the pen being mightier than the sword.
You ROCK!
You ARE my rock. Never ever forget that.
XOXO
"Muddled Mutt Me" hehehe
Sweet PeachieBaby!
ReplyDeleteWow!
You too have amazed me- And I did not do the research. Dr. Weiss did, and I fully believe him- Coming from being such a 'scientific' man, a nonbeliever, as I read his book, we sort of came to the (our) foregone conclusions together.
I do know of the (other) references being removed from the bible- BY MERE MORTALS, (and men), no less.
I believe that you and I are both of the 'muddled variety'- It is in doing research on 'other' religions that we come to know what we believe.
And it is in love that we receive too-
Had anyone asked me of reincarnation when I was 16, I would simply have stated "nope" -and been on my merry way.
But life teaches us SO much more as we truly learn, year after year.
That is, if our eyes and hearts are open.
Do people really think that you will not be with the ones you love after you die; no matter the religion, or lack of it???
That a mere 70 years - give or take - of existence is ALL there is?
This, I cannot fathom.
And if that makes me close-minded, then so be it. hehehe
XOXO
Me, "the unedumacated"
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I do also love Ecclesiastes- (Along with the Psalms, and the Songs).
Sweet Snotball;
ReplyDeleteLet them take umbrage! If they came around more often, they might not be so quick to call names and pretenses.
I am happy to see that you know you are unsure. This tells me that you 'might' be open to the idea, the scope, of reincarnation.
I do not believe that reincarnation involves coming back as an animal or a bug.
Just as your own soul, in another body- until we get it right.
You, much like Mama and Daddy, always allowed me to speak my mind- {Umm, Dad moreso than mom- (She had longer arms)}.
I thank you for that!
My love always too-
(And to ALL who have spent some time with me here today, and have done their research, with minds and hearts wide open).
I see that I really shall have to delve into this further.
XOXO
Me
As Dr. Weiss stated, (from the link)-
ReplyDelete"Are families more spiritually connected from life to life than strangers are?
Yes, and I do think that people come in groups for the working out of debts and responsibilities, the concept of karma. These are the people that we're learning and growing with. I even put love at first sight, or hostility at first sight into that category, a recognition of souls.
I know the old saying: blood is thicker than water. Well, I mention in "Through Time into Healing" that spirit seems thicker than blood."
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See, I believe that this is 'why' we have all met. We are but a "recognition of souls."
XOXO
Me
Suggested from my email-
ReplyDeleteIf any of you wish to know more, please take the time to read "Looking for Carrol Beckwith" by Captain Robert L. Snow.
What the writer said, "While I myself needed no convincing, this book comes the closest of any I've read to proving the reality of reincarnation."
Thank you SO much, my friend!
XOXO
Me
http://www.amazon.com/Looking-Carroll-Beckwith-Stories-Detectives/dp/1579541011
ReplyDeleteIt truly amazes me how condescending people without study, thusly incapable of learning the 'more', are.
ReplyDeleteWhile I basically 'know' my bible, (and how *I* translate it), I have not had any idea to dig deeper and see how else, it may be translated- maybe even against my ideals.
I have found one website- Truth or Heresy, that really does translate what a mortal body (ours) might be questioning...
Read especially the parts about reincarnation- Knowing full well how the author(s) have even translated one single passage of John (at the bottom). The following is taken from that site-
Reincarnation If Jesus is Only a Man, Then…What is Salvation All About?Jesus Taught ReincarnationReincarnation in the ScripturesReincarnation in Early ChristianityReincarnation: Once to Die?Many Stripes or Few?Afterlife 1Afterlife 2Afterlife 3Afterlife 4<a title="Who are the Overcomers? 1" href="http://truthorheresy.com/reincarnation/who-are-the-overcomers-1" target="_blank" rel="nof
YAY!
ReplyDeleteI done good! hehehe
The above links are all clickable.
I have spent hours poring over this website- (I don't read as fast as 'some people' DeeAnne).
And I found myself nodding many times, over and over.
XOXO
Me
Blind faith is what most believers have in common.
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Wow,where did you get that from ? That would most definitely feel like an invasion of privacy had it been accurate. That is totally inaccurate. And I'll get back to this viewing history thing in a sec, but first I'd like to share something with ya.. . . . .. As Jesus chose different apostles with differing approaches, God too chose disciples and prophets with different styles and angles of view. Some with great endurance, some with great wisdom. Some who focused on the law and others who focused on love and forgiveness. Paul, who authored many New Testament books went through a wide range of emotions when he learned that some of the churches he had established had slipped away and were teaching false doctrine. In fact, he became quite outraged in some cases. More than once he set out with quite a furious determination to sternly admonish those involved with spreading false doctrine. Well, when I saw you post false claims about Christianity I viewed it with similar outrage and determination. God doesn't want His Word to be bastardized and said as much in the pages of His book, so there was no way that I was about to let even one reader mistakenly presume that what you said is true. Hopefully that helps you understand exactly where I was coming from.
ReplyDeleteBack to this viewing history thing. I've never seen that option. Is it new? How does one do it?. . . . . and fyi, at least in this case, it ain't workin'. Glich or whatever, it didn't give accurate results this time.
Just for the sake of those not familiar with the concept, what follows is a sort of primer in which I'll attempt to relate some of the more up-to-date concepts concerning reincarnation.
ReplyDeleteThe modern teachings about reincarnation state that after the body wears out and falls away, the collection of impressions and tendencies which form the nature of one's individual mind (intellectual and emotional impressions both) and ego remain. A process is gone through at some point after death. It could be accurately called a life review. At some point the soul/mind is drawn toward and merges with another body, usually in the later stages of the new body being in utero.
The reasons why a person is drawn toward a particular body, and enters his new life with a whole set of pre-determined impressions which he's meant to experience and deal with during the course of the new life are too complex to discuss in this forum.
The mind/body/ego/"soul" spends countless lives in both genders. In most cases his consciousness developed from the most infinitely limited forms of awareness, progressing through many forms over many eons until reaching the human form, which alone possesses a fully developed sense of the self and a fully formed ego. The Law of Karma then applies to all thoughts, emotions and actions. What one sows is what one reaps. Obviously there is not enough time to reap the results of every action in a single lifetime. Thus, the mind/soul/ego tends to continue to return, time and time again, in a Karmic attempt to balance things out..
Yes!
ReplyDeleteThat's pretty much it. We are who we are because of ALL that has happened to us while previously here. Karma continues to balance things out regardless of the lifetime we use to do that balancing in. That's why many unjustifiable things seem to happen that brings us so much misunderstanding as to the "why's" of the bad things happening to good people.
And yes...we return to that which provides us with the most opportunity to fulfill the need of balancing our Karma or even in a selfless attempt to help someone else to balance theirs.
This all makes sense to those of us who understand it.
In all cases there is a universal goal to reincarnating in different forms. It's the same for everyone and involves attaining higher and higher levels of consciousness until ultimately one loses one's limited and limiting ego and merges with the Godhead, which consists of three main aspects: Infinite Intelligence, Infinite Power and Infinite Bliss. It is a state which transcends time and space and is therefore without both beginning and ending. It is that same Divine state which God has enjoyed since the beginning of time. It is the same "Eternal Life" of which Jesus spoke when he came down in human form as the Christ, also known as the Messiah, the Savior, Rasool, Buddha, Ancient One or by any number of other names. From time to time God, the Creator, enters a human form. He came as Jesus but that was not his first Advent, nor his last. He comes from time to time, usually when humanity has reached it's depths, to take the results of the karma of the world upon His shoulders. During every Advent He suffers horribly, simultaneously taking on the sufferings that rightfully belong to humanity (and thus burning off a large portion of them Himself), while at the same time showering all of Creation with the Infinite Love of the Divine.
ReplyDeleteNow HOW could anyone NOT understand this? This IS the way it is. And yet, the full understanding will never be given to us till we are back home where ALL this knowledge will already be known to us.
ReplyDeleteModern teachings = New Age teachings. God said let no man change even one word of the bible lest troubles befall upon him. Not a direct quote but the meaning is there.
ReplyDeleteMan has been foolish since the beginning. Always trying to re-invent God's Word. Making excuses to justify his own thoughts and behaviors. And changing that which he does not understand or which his human mind cannot find reason. This exemplifies man's lack of full trust and faith in God.
I could very easily google and find scripture which shows there is no reincarnation, and I will in just a moment. But first consider this .. . . . there are more people on earth right now than all the people that ever existed in total. So how could we 7 billion be the products of reincarnation when there weren't even 7 billion previous lived peoples......and even if there had been 7 billion previous people, where were they reincarnated from considering there certainly was not 7 billion people previous to them (sorry, my question mark key is not working)
Brb wtih biblical answers to reincarnation.
The ultimate goal of Reincarnation is to unwind the strings of one's karmic impressions and begin searching for the conscious experience of learning to love God. Out of thousands of sincere seekers only one will be successful in his quest in a given lifetime. Thus Jesus' statement that "Many are called but few are chosen."
ReplyDeleteAt some point in time it is the ultimate goal of all souls to consciously merge with the Creator, which is a state of Fully Self-Enlightened Existence and non-exclusive Oneness. Some refer to that state as being the One in the many. It is considered by it's believers to be the highest state of Divine consciousness, Intelligence, Power, Love, Oneness and Bliss, and is considered to be the reason for which God brought all material existence came into creation.
It is an individual experience. It is unique to every soul, although the same for every soul. This state of evolution of consciousness is a never ending process.
One cannot fully reach that final and ultimate destination through one's own efforts. The ego cannot let go of itself. One needs the help of what is referred to in the East as a Perfect Master. When Jesus came down as the Christ into human form, he became a Perfect Master (also called the God-Man, being both a perfect human and the perfect God simultaneously) with the help of a limited number of Perfect Masters who remain on the material plane at all times. The God-Man known to us as Jesus is the only Perfect Master who returns again and again to the material plane once having dropped his body at the culmination of a given Advent.
There are two ways to become a Perfect Master: one is to lose ones limited self in such intense longing for Oneness with God that He reaches down his hand and pulls one up to the Ultimate state of Divine Consciousness. (When Jesus spoke of being the only Way, it was this to which he was referring) (He also said "I and my Father are One", so that he can bestow this gift whether in a physical body or not.)
The other is to have been the original God, who is Existence and Divinity Eternal, and who's Consciousness merged with the first human being to achieve the state of God-Consciousness on His own. That first human then merged with God, also known as the Avatar, and according to one belief system is the only Soul who comes back in human form, time after time, to help the floundering creation in the depths of it's despair and give a universal boost to all of Creation. (Other Perfect Masters, while having the same ability to return to earth as humans, have not the Authority to do so.)
Thus, in brief: consciousness begins to develop through the lower forms of life and over an infinite period of time reaches fruition as human consciousness. It (or "we") then simultaneously burn off the impressions which helped create this fully developed consciousness through the process of being reborn countless numbers of times.
And ultimately, as all streams lead to the ocean, all souls transcend the Illusion of their Separateness and experience a merging with Divinity Itself, which is Love Eternal, Infinite and Divine.
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I should have begun by saying that I'm not in the business of trying to convert anyone to any set of beliefs. But the concept of Reincarnation had come up and is generally misunderstood, which led me to try to expound briefly upon the reality of reincarnation as many - but surely not all - have come to understand it.
In not trying to convert anyone to this set of beliefs, which is only one among a multitude (including a-theism), I must also say that I have no desire at this point to continue any further with this discussion. Most people are not on the same page, with regards to religious or spiritual beliefs. Most are also set in their belief systems. Most are also not familiar with this doctrine, this explanation of the very purpose o
Question: "What does the Bible say about reincarnation?"
ReplyDeleteAnswer: The concept of reincarnation is completely without foundation in the Bible, which clearly tells us that we die once and then face judgment (Hebrews 9:27). The Bible never mentions people having a second chance at life or coming back as different people or animals. Jesus told the criminal on the cross, "Today you will be with me in paradise" (Luke 23:43), not "You will have another chance to live a life on this earth." Matthew 25:46 specifically tells us that believers go on to eternal life while unbelievers go onto eternal punishment. Reincarnation has been a popular belief for thousands of years, but it has never been accepted by Christians or followers of Judaism because it is contradictory to Scripture.
Belief in reincarnation is an ancient phenomenon and is a central tenet within the majority of Indian religious traditions, such as Hinduism, Sikhism, and Jainism. Many modern pagans also believe in reincarnation as do some New Age movements, along with followers of spiritism. For the Christian, however, there can be no doubt: reincarnation is unbiblical and must be rejected as false.
Summation -- Reincarnation has been a popular belief for thousands of years, but it has never been accepted by Christians or followers of Judaism
-- For the Christian, however, there can be no doubt: reincarnation is unbiblical and must be rejected as false.
"never been accepted by Christians" - "because it is contradictory to Scripture" - " there can be no doubt: reincarnation is unbiblical and must be rejected as false"
REINCARNATION IS NOT IN ALL RELIGIONS AS WAS CLAIMED AT THE TOP OF THIS BLOG.
"Jesus and His followers came upon a blind man. One of his disciples said to Him "For what reason was this man BORN blind, Master?" That question makes absolutely NO sense without bringing in the idea that they were all familiar with, and believers of, the concept of reincarnation. Otherwise, how could the man have done anything deserving punishment before the moment of his BIRTH? There's simply no other explanation for it, unless one wants to assume that he kicked too much in the womb."
ReplyDeleteYou and I think so much alike its unreal!
ReplyDeleteThere are many born with deformities or health issues. There are many born in wealth while others are born into poverty. Where is the fairness of being thrust into this life lacking in things that others are so blessed to have? It's simple. We each have the same opportunity to learn from ALL experience that life has to offer. We just do it throughout different life times. No need to have any resentment towards the wealthy or the beautiful and gifted people, because chances are, we too have either had those opportunities already or we will have them at some time or another. But on that same note, we also shall experience being poor, unhealthy, short, tall, good-looking, bad-looking, intelligent, and many other possibilities that involve the human condition. Some even get to experience many things in one lifetime. How we learn to cope with things is how we progress in our learning. And our Karma is what we have collected along the way. "Do unto others as you would have done unto you" is the best explanation of what Karma is.
To me, believing there is only one life, and to be born with an affliction and into poverty would mean that life is entirely random and that there would be no God or Creator. And to know that God would allow some to be born into seemingly perfect lives while others are not, would be really unfair. But life is NOT random. God is NOT being unfair. God is giving us ALL the same. Just at different times according to our needs of learning.
I most definitely believe there IS a God/Creator and that this entity loves us ALL so much that we are given a great opportunity to learn all there is to learn about being Human. And there is no possible way to do that in one lifetime.
So yes, Reincarnation makes a whole lot of sense to me.
(Mrwhatzit..... I know you are a person who has come to understand much in life. You sound wise and I love the way you think.)
Reminds me of the truism about you should not judge a man by those who like him.... but rather judge the man by those who can not stand him.
ReplyDeleteAll those years of the church schooling were not wasted. I spent them learning as much as I could about any religion I could get my hands on.
ReplyDeleteLike a Chevy truck Pea.
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ReplyDeleteSpeed reader Pea.
Its not faith if its not blind. If you could see it then it would be FACT not FAITH.
ReplyDeleteIt's only blind faith if the one with the faith is blind to the Truth. (Just sayin..) Good point though.
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ReplyDeleteHmm...
Rubs hands together... Stretches out a bit. ... Smiles.
Now, where was I?
With the turkeys?
ReplyDeletetrue.... and thank you.
ReplyDeletehehehehehe
ReplyDeleteand the mowssis... don't forget that.
ReplyDeleteROTF!
But I do see I have a lot of catching up to do on this one.
I had skimmed it over when Casey was here, got her all fired up- so she will be adding her 2¢ to it when she can.
OK- Off to read- with a bigger smile on my face now!
XOXO
Me
Blind Faith-
ReplyDeleteAnd don't forget BLIND TRUST too- in a mere mortal man who stands at the altar each week and begs for your money to cover the lawsuits and the paternity suits of it's 'leaders'
When it comes to NOT allowing everyone to think for themselves, it has a tendency to send my B/P up a bit...
There is no such thing as ONE Bible. There are many- and they all say the same thing basically.
When I would have those thoughts, I always thought they came from me being adopted.
ReplyDeleteDeja vǜ not included.
Now, deja vǜ was/IS a real neat thing; if it isn't too unsettling when it happens...
When we were kids, (still at home), on Sundays we would take a drive with mom and dad. Pa knew all the greatest places to go because he sold new/used machinery; and delivered many truckloads of hay all over NE Wisconsin.
If we left home as soon as the barn work was done, we would seek out another church to do our worshipping at. It never bothered Dad which denomination it was. We would stop and pray at one or another, then go to lunch, (with pie ala mode), and drive on some more; sightseeing and all.
I thought it was cool. Mary was an old stick in the mud, and was upset. Mom would do almost anything Dad wanted.
I think your experience- speaking in tongues- is a valid one. One of my dearest friends, a neighbor, had it happen to her. (Not at a Catholic service either- Those (still are) too rote to inspire even the slightest deviation.
I am glad that Richard is OK. As we see from the trials and tribulations of teens and adults all over the world, some are not, and will never be accepted, and loved for who they are- and not who they sleep with.
I do not know their pain on a sexual level; but I have known that on a personal level more than a few times. I think we probably all have at one time or another in our lives.
Matter of fact I am seeing that right here on this page of mine- To not be accepted for who you are; not without having someone try to change you.
Peachie, never apologize for writing what you are all about. I love it! And you know darn well you may always take as much space on an issue as you need.
XOXO
Your muddled sister!
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ReplyDeleteTake it up with Multiply.
See, I not only have the right to believe in reincarnation, I also have the right to post what I wish within MY blog.
According to my count at Multiply, AND my Statcounter, it is accurate, AND true.
How dare you accuse me of some perverted form of blasphemy! And how DARE you "limit" God!
ReplyDeleteYou have explained nothing to me. You haven't the right- especially to compare yourself with one of the disciples!
Now go away, back to your bowl and lick your wounds.
Yes, and I agree with you completely- (And I found myself nodding many times again, as I read your comments here)
ReplyDeleteYou *DO* have a way of putting things into words so that we can [all] understand them.
If we think we are only a body- 'dust to dust' might apply-
But I know many many nonbelievers who do more in one day for their fellow man than most of the rest of us do in a lifetime.
We DO get to come back- and we DO get a chance, or 100's to get it right.
ReplyDeleteOur Whatzit is very very good!
PS
Confession being good for the soul, I laughed out loud at your last sentence Peachie!
For the 1st sentence I have only one thought- That you didn't explain 'forms'. Or perhaps you do believe the entire scope of reincarnation to cross human existence with animals?
ReplyDeleteI know people that fully believe that too.
I love the way you worded this: "until ultimately one loses one's limited and limiting ego and merges with the Godhead, which consists of three main aspects: Infinite Intelligence, Infinite Power and Infinite Bliss."
It evokes a certain peace within myself to even read it. Still there is more peace knowing, believing that this happens, ultimately, to everyone.
I thank you for this all.
It only seems right to those of us who have allowed ourselves to think outside of the box that some mortals wish to put us in.
ReplyDeleteI feel poorly for those that do not believe they will one day die, and absorb pure knowledge itself.
Not in human form either.
Again, with respect to the atheists, I do not feel badly for any who do not believe themselves to be the Alpha and the Omega.
It is those who are high and mighty humans with no compassion for their fellow man that I feel p-oorly for.
Maybe I shouldn't. Perhaps I should feel peace knowing that, in time, they too will be confronted with great knowledge.
It is just not happening in this lifetime is the way I feel towards/about them.
ReplyDeleteAnd this is bad thing?
Why?
Fell asleep in class, didja?
ReplyDeleteThe bible was almost completely rewritten in 600AD. By men.
I believe in the scope of all things being 'real' those rewritings are what began as ideas to set off the Crusades 200 years later.
Or have you conveniently forgotten about The Crusades? Most people who call themselves RC have.
Huh?
ReplyDeleteAre you chancing to imply that if someone does not agree with *your* interpretation that they are wrong, and you are right?
Thoughts and behaviors?
I have posted link upon link upon link to give insight to what you have decried as erred; flawed somehow, in *your* eyes.
Then again, you seem to need to compare yourself to a disciple so I will take that with such a grain of salt. Or as my personal savior?
Again I am not, and was not searching for anyone's approval. yet you came here- first even- to talk yourself in circles about what you have chosen to interpret.
Your way or the highway I see.
---- back to that bowl.
ReplyDeleteYou need to google, you go right ahead and do so.
But do keep in mind that the bible was completely rewritten in the 6th century; and many more times than we could possibly be aware of.
The Vatican being one of the biggest and most widely accepted reigns of terror for all too many people.
And they get away with it because *they* have somehow found the ear of God.
How bad is that?
As far as reincarnation and souls go?
Again I ask you, HOW CAN YOU LIMIT GOD?
I honestly do not care how many people/souls have gone before- only to a respect of the history we are provided with.
I care, who I was, what I did, and why I did it.
ReplyDeleteI see that too.
Do not EVER apologize for your beliefs. They are as right to you as life itself.
ReplyDeleteIt is the way with all of us; some being more open than others- for whatever reason they choose.
I believe that out of respect for ourselves it is topics such as this one that need to be further researched and learned.
I would give my left arm to be able to do a regression either with Browne or Weiss. But that could get messy.
When I read of these reincarnations, and hear of peoples NDE's I cannot explain it any other way, exzcept to say that there is MORE out there- More for us to know about, and to believe in.
I hope I am never *that* set in my own belief system that I cannot take one more step ahead.
(Well, except where Healthcare is concerned). hehehe
Reincarnation, along with many other things, is simple to understand but totally unacceptable to too many.
If we just stop to think of the depth and breadth of the universe we will will see how we all fit together. Somehow.
All it takes is an open and serene mind.
Thank you Mr. for providing us all with your own thoughts on this matter, It takes a brave soul to even step forward and write what you have written.
You are a good and honest man. Stay that way. The world needs more of you
XOXO
Me
I have five words for you.
ReplyDeleteReincarnation is in ALL religions.
I thank you for your input; it has been very eye-opening for me.
But there comes a time when to limit someone else is to harm yourself by doing so. And when that happens, we both lose.
Well, that ain't gonna happen here buddy.
Find someone, whose beliefs systems are not as driven as mine, to spread your narrow interpretations and limits of God.
But answer me this much; as you have avoided it all throughout.
What religion do you associate yourself with?
ReplyDeleteSorry Charlie-
The title is truth.
The title remains.
ReplyDeleteAn EXCELLENT thought process involved here.
You are correct with your explanation of it.
You are a man to be respected.
I thank you again!
ReplyDeleteSweet PeachieBaby!
And you my dear- are a good woman!
I will allow Mr. to reply to your note to him.
(But yes!, it makes no/little sense unless one can include reincarnation in the whole master plan).
XOXO
Me
Thank you my little Sweet Pea;
ReplyDeleteI just checked again to see if the person had read anything else.
Guess not so the list hasn't changed...
But i did click on those and see where I might have ticked him/her off in a few of those entries.
Start with this one. http://flintville.multiply.com/journal/item/1177 hehehe
Have a wunnaful night my dear!
XOXO
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ReplyDeleteChevy Trucks Flatten Peas!
Be careful!
ReplyDeleteI remember- 1500 words a minute- and i think I was half of that!
OMG -Call me Pokey. hehehe
ReplyDeleteVery good my dear!
ReplyDeleteOnce again a very good point!
XOXO
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ReplyDeleteBack to the turkeys...
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Just a smidgen of a correction, Anna. (I think.) My understanding is that the space between Christ's cruxifiction and the installation of King Constantine bridged a span of about 400 years. (If I remember the PBS show as well as I'm hoping I do.) By that time, Christianity was going in multiple directions. There were sects which believed in reincarnation; there were others who interpreted various teachings in many, many other ways. There was no "Bible" yet (Bible being a word for "Book" in either Greek or Latin, someone enlighten me.), but simply a large collection of disconnected papers. Religion was still very much tied to politics in those days (as it is yet today in various places) and King Constantine wanted a book about the teachings of the Christ that fit together in the form of a definitive, cohesive narrative. So, he and his fellow scholars gathered together all of the known writings which existed on the subject at the time and spent months deciding which papers (the "books" which together compose today's Bible) should be included and which discarded or, at least, NOT included. I was surprised to learn just how much was left out of the final, official version.
ReplyDeleteThere was the Book of Mary, for instance. There was also an alternate version of the Book of Revelations. But the writings which were left out were done so due to the king's desire to have a cohesive, flowing narrative, and in that respect he largely succeeded. This "Bible" which was cobbled together some 400 years after the life of Christ is, in many respects, a good read with a nicely flowing narrative; especially with regards to the New Testament. Again, while having read various assertions of the Bible having been "edited" in the 5th century in the city of Constantinople by King Constantine, this Public TV show - was it a Nova or a Frontline? - was so well researched and presented that it constituted the finest presentation of the actual facts that I've ever run across. I wish I could remember the name of the show, but it was shown fairly recently and is bound to be repeated. I hope that it is. I think it would prove enlightening for anyone with any interest in the subject, as it did for me.
That would seem to be factually incorrect. The total number of people ever to have been born has been scientifically estimated to have been in excess of 100 billion. Please see link:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.prb.org/Articles/2002/HowManyPeopleHaveEverLivedonEarth.aspx
You are quite probably correct.
ReplyDeleteI was trying to think of "Constantine" and could not find the brain cell that stored his name.
The holy 'writings that were there before even included many many writings from Mary Magdalene, and Mother Mary- to name only 2 of the women that were -ahem- 'overlooked' and completely deleted when they rewrote those writings.
Those keepers being the basis of the modern day Christian bible...
Other 'religions' organized or not, also kept out the women end of it all. Sad, that.
I didn't see the show(s) you wrote of- Remind me if you ever see it listed anywhere again?
XOXO
Me
Great Link!
ReplyDeleteNUMBER WHO HAVE EVER BEEN BORN
107,602,707,791
World population in mid-2011
6,987,000,000
Percent of those ever born who are living in 2011
6.5Source:
Population Reference Bureau estimates.
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ReplyDeleteThis is where it gets a bit complicated. There are different schools of thought regarding reincarnation. The one which I may or may not have taken to heart explains that ...how can I even begin? The Teacher explains that consciousness develops gradually. He explains that lower forms of life are like the platforms that workers use to stand upon when erecting a building. His teachings state that consciousness begins with the most basic form in the physical universe, and, as more and more experiences are gathered in a given form (a lower form might be an insect, for example, which has a very limited degree of developed consciousness), eventually every possible experience in that form is experienced. At that point it becomes time for the young, developing soul to ascend to the next highest form. He teaches that in all there are seven general forms, each having developed higher and more complete forms of consciousness, culminating in the human form, at which point consciousness is complete and there is a fully developed ego. Only in the human form is the soul able to ultimately achieve liberation from the long string of incarnations.
ReplyDeleteThese teachings also include the principle that once one has reached a given form, he will not revert again to a lower form in a future life. Once one has attained human consciousness, one continues incarnating into human forms. A man can't come back as a horse or a cockroach. The evolution of the soul is an ongoing, forward moving process.
This Perfect Master, if one chooses after examination to accept Him for what He claims to be - and that is up to each individual - did not encourage proselytising. Which is good because I don't want to be talking about this subject for the rest of my life Even Perfect Masters prefer to occasionally relax with a book. But should you, Anna, wish to learn more about the source from which these teachings have come, I've put a link on the page that you and Jo and I have been carrying on a separate discussion about this topic, and if you feel so drawn, you'll find that that that link leads to many other links, each equally interesting at the very least. But I don't think I'll post it here. This Teacher denigrates no other religions. He has stated that He Himself has not come to establish yet another religion. He taught love and tolerance and all of the other things to be found in Luke, Chapter 6, Verses 20 through 49. He stated that any religion, if taken completely to Heart can bring one to God. He taught that it is everyone's ultimate destiny to attain Oneness with God, even though there are as many pathways to God as there are souls. Therefore, I don't consider it my place, nor myself the least bit worthy to say more than I have said. (What if I were to lose my marbles next week and commit murder? I'd be setting a terrible example of what I'm attempting to explain! And sometimes even the best church-going Christians can lose their marbles.) So, I think I'll just leave it at that.
(I was afraid you were going to notice that first sentence and ask me about it, because I didn't know what the proper way to answer would be. But of course you did, being the intelligent and detail-oriented person that you are. I only hope that what I've said here brings you at least a bit closer to that at which I was attempting to only slyly hint.)
But you know, when all is said and done it's trying to learn to love and obey the teachings of God that is of the only importance. God is above the intellect, (He created the intellect, not the other way around), and so it's impossible for ones intellect to do more than hint at the Unfathomable Glory which is That which created and maintains the universe with only the power of his Will, which is Divine Love.
Mrwhatzit, could you share that link with me. Please? I love reading about this subject. I know the possibilities are endless and our understanding of Gods way is minimal at the most. I always thought there was that "progression" idea too.
ReplyDeleteWe once had a cat that loved eating popcorn and pizza. We caught him stealing ours every chance he got and we lovingly teased that when he came back he would come back as a human who loved pizza and popcorn. I think we thought he was getting his tastebuds prepared for what he would have a passion for eating. :)
Hey....anything IS possible. I don't have any doubt about that. I've been reading all sorts of books relating to this subject for the past 30 years or so. Been curious and questioned many things since I was a teen, but only started getting the books at the library to read up on the subject when I was in my 20's. My mind is always still open to know more.
Aside from the disagreement about Christianity and reincarnation might I offer a suggestion for a great book?
ReplyDeleteJohn Piper's - Don't Waste Your Life
It's not what one might expect due to the title. Essentially it's a collection of enlightenments and appreciations. Both deeply intellectual and down to earth. Fascinating.
http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Waste-Your-Life-Piper/dp/1581344988
well i came over to check out the boob only to find Ive been deleted once more......I can not be online everyday anymore. I have kids and am a full time student. I did tell you I would come by and eventually I did. Apparently it was to late. I hate that my lack of free time has cost me a friend, but then friends dont go away so easily do they? It was great knowing you Anne. I learned a ton from you and I will always love you, but this is the second time youve deleted me SO I am just going to say goodbye. Thanks for the lessons.
ReplyDeletePatrick, if you go to your homepage and go to the bottom you'll see your viewing history. (It's always been there, nothing new.). You can do a search on the viewing of all pages, all users or even a specific user. It will go back to the first viewer of your page.
ReplyDeleteSorry Sis for stepping in here. Wanted to get it out of the way before I read further. If you've addressed it in a later response, my apologies.
oxox,
foreveryoursnotballsister
I've seen Patrick get snippy before but this was uncalled for. Wow, talk about short fuses.
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ReplyDeleteOK
I have clicked and read the description of your book.
Nonplussed I am.
If I want to read stuff like that all I have to do is post a blog about reincarnation or homosexuality- or hey, even my Muslim friends.
Then I have all the [seething hate] I would ever need from people who proclaim themselves to be Christians and then neatly forget the Golden Rule.
Then, I get all the religion I need shoved down my throat in one fell swoop.
So- No thank you. Not interested.
XOXO
Me
BeccaBaby!
ReplyDeleteYou sweet, silly, golden-streaked, boob. I did not delete you.
Even Casey could not find me on here last week. (Nor was she on MY list anywhere).
Not sure what is up with that but something sure is being nasty about my site.
And yes this HAS happened before- At least one other time, (that I know about).
Send me that invite- Mark it 'friends' if ya want to keep up with my own health.
XOXO
Me
ReplyDeleteYou are absolutely right. It was, and still is, completely uncalled for.
XOXO
Me
Glad to know I was not deleted even if I am a golden streaked boob. LOL That totally sucks what has happened to your site and of course I want to keep up with your health my FRIEND!! .......NOW point me to the boob......which one is it..lol
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You quacked me up!
XOXO
me
True, sometimes I get snippy. But it was not my intention this time. Sometimes words on the internet do not accurately display the true meanings or emotions of the author. To be clear in this case here, I meant to be firm, that's for sure, but not with any malice or ill will.
ReplyDeleteHope that's received with understanding.
And PEACE to you Miss Flintville!!
What *I* was trying to tell you was that I do not need the advice; however it was meant-
ReplyDeleteI promise you that I am more than comfortable wearing my own spirituality.
Your 'religion' or whatever is not meant to be mine.
Nor are your beliefs. Know that I have no problems facing [my God] with that knowledge.
Your wish for me is peace? Why is that when you cannot even accept that someone may feel differently from you and good grief, that one person may even be welcome in death; moreso to rebirth?
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This reminds me to think of you:
"A Native American elder once described his own inner struggles in this manner:
"Inside of me there are two dogs. One of the dogs is mean and evil. The other dog is good. The mean dog fights the good dog all the time."
When asked which dog wins, he reflected for a moment and replied, "The one I feed the most."
http://www.avatarmeherbaba.org/erics/univmsg.html
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I really liked your article and the photo is super. Thanks you.
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