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New Policy Requires All Pit bulls, American Staffordshire Terriers, Rottweilers, Chow Chows, and Presa Canerios To Be Killed in NC Shelter « Our Compass
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Related: Cumberland County Animal Control wants to limit adoptions of certain dog breeds
BACKGROUND
Breed ban: please protest 72-hr.-kill proposal in Cumberland County Animal Control in Fayetteville, NC.
Feel free to use the Sample Letters(available if you click), but please modify heavily as it is particularly long.
There is a breed ban on ADOPTION of said dogs, and it is set to be discussed on Monday the 5th of December for all Pit bulls, American Staffordshire Terriers, Rottweilers, Chow Chows, and Presa Canerios.
Cumberland County’s reason for this is they do not want to be held liable for these breeds and the possible problems with them after adoption from the shelter. A simple waiver should solve this.
We need to let them know that this is not the answer.
These dogs will be held for the mandatory 72 hrs and then will be killed, THEY WILL NOT BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO BE ADOPTED.
If the dog is an owner turn-in, he will be killed the second he walks into the back.
Again, this is set to be DISCUSSED on December 5 and will not go into effect unless passed by all committees.
WHOM TO CONTACT
jcouncil@co.cumberland.nc.us
cevans@co.cumberland.nc.us
jkeefe@co.cumberland.nc.us
bking@co.cumberland.nc.us
emelvin@co.cumberland.nc.us
mayor@ci.fay.nc.us
jlauby@co.cumberland.nc.us
kedge@co.cumberland.nc.us
wmfaircloth@co.cumberland.nc.us
Individual
Dr. John Lauby
Director of Animal Services
Cumberland County Animal Control
4704 Corporation Drive,
Fayetteville, NC 28306
Animal Control Phone: 910-321-6845, 910-321-6844, 910-321-6826, 910-321-6827,
910-321-6945, 910-321-6965 910-321-6852
Fax: 910-223-3357 jlauby@co.cumberland.nc.us
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I realize that we do not live around here- At least I don't believe I have any friends in NC- (My apologies if my brain farted).
You cannot judge a breed of dog by its name- Only by its owner.
While I will allow that a dog who only has been trained to fight is unadoptable, this does not mean that all dogs of that breed are the same.
They are not!!!
It is too bad that the constitution- or its preamble- does not provide "All Dogs are Created Equal"
XOXO
Me
PS
Check your neighbors yard as you walk, jog, or ride along- You may see a dog that needs immediate attention.
Please do not be afraid to call in anonymously. Generally a call to police will also be considered helpful; as long as they pass your info on.
Depending on whether you live rural or urban- Please either call your local dogcatcher, or The Humane Society where you live.
Oops.
ReplyDeleteI forgot to add the link to the related content. It is here.
http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2011/11/30/1140687?sac=Local
Of course they claim "The last option is euthanasia."
-but reading between the lines is a whole different story.
XOXO
Me
Wow, how small minded some people are because of breed specifics. I have a girlfriend in Ohio that has to move and has to find a new home for her Rottie because where she's moving has a no Rottie policy. At least she's looking to people she knows and not a shelter. My Daughter has a Pit Bull and I have no worries about him with my Grandchildren. It's not the dog, it's how they're raised.
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foreveryoursnotballsister
Sweet Snotball.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely true- it is always the people being too damned lazy- or too damned cruel.
Not sure about you, but I know I could train ANY dog to guard me (and to be mean with one simple command from me).
Also, if you have ever been bitten, my money would be on the fact that it was by one of the 'ankle-biter' breeds.
And that, because when THEY do it as puppies, some ignoramus 'thinks' it's cute.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....................
XOXO
me
Sorry, I can't even read this one.
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ReplyDeleteMr;
Do I need to change the font size, or is it the subject matter that has you unable to read it?
Please to let me know?
i will be back on... later.
XOXO
me
Ann, I live in this county in NC. I don't go along with this idea of just summarily putting down a dog because of the breed. There is a "no-kill" shelter here but they won't take any dog that is a pit bull, stafforshire, rotti, chow chow, presa canerios or even a mix. I have a lab, sharpei mix and he is big and people think he is a pitbull mix, maybe its the head on him. Anyways my vet told me he was a mix of sharpei and lab, so that is what I tell people. Yeah I think the dog owners should be more responsible and they should crack down on the backyard breeders here. We have many of them.
ReplyDeleteIt my case it's the subject matter, Anne. I'm just not feeling up to exposing myself to that degree of stupidity and man's cruelty to animals at this point in time.
ReplyDeleteI definitely agree on backyard breeders and hiring more animal control officers.
ReplyDeleteAgree's wholeheartedly, Oh my goodness that is just awful....If you live in a big city please call the humane society, for the dog catchers take them to their deaths.
ReplyDeleteThe last figures I heard for here in Chicago is that an average of 5,000 (unless it was 500) dog's and other pets without tags found wandering loose on the streets are put to death DAILY, although I read that quite a while ago, and pray that the numbers go down. There are several no-killl shelters dotting the city, but the ASPCA only keeps their captured animals for 72 hours before euthanasia, so if you do find a friendly animal in Chicago and can't find it's owner, PLEASE don't drop it off at the ASPCA!
ReplyDeleteSweet Babushka;
ReplyDeleteOops!
I am hoping you will please please get on board and perhaps do some campaigning for these innocents. As I said above, it is the owners that are the misfits of society.
And while I believe that to be the gods honest truth, I also believe that any dog who maims or kills a child should be put down immediately- no matter the breed- no matter the problem.
Dogs should always be trained/brought up to take sh*t from kids- and to walk away.
I had a show on earlier today- one backyard breeder had over 240 dogs in her possession- AND SAW NOTHING WRONG WITH IT!
Still and all, *I* could have been considered such when Miss Milly had her pups, couldn't I?
Oh I don't know the answers. But I do know that something has to be done.
Maybe you will write- or call and get the point across?
XOXO
Me
Mr W.
ReplyDeleteI don't blame you.
I can't stand it either.
But I can't stand the thought of killing off a whole breed for the misdeeds of a few (people).
XOXO
Me
ReplyDeleteVery very true!
And the laws are not harsh enough by far... Not anywhere.
Sweet Pamela;
ReplyDeleteOut here, the dog catchers just bring them in to the Humane Society. hehehe
OK. Not always...
I had a dog here once- just traveling through he was- but Miss Milly was in heat- (And he literally had "drool" dripping from his mouth)...
I called the county sheriff dept. They contacted the dog catcher- (His wife showed up)-
She didn't bat an eye, just went up to him and checked his tags- (I was not taking any chances that he was rabid)...
She got him in her car and called later- he did belong to a family here in Flintville-
Maybe the drool was only because Milly was in heat- and on the other side of the kennel door?
That was freaky.
While I do know that the Human Society here puts dogs down i have also seen their cages, many times that show that the dog had been there for a long(ish) time. 3-4 months is a very long time for any animal to be held.
XOXO
me
I promise Mr. W.
ReplyDeleteIf I were in Chicago...
if I were traveling through- and saw a dog on the side of the freeway i would be the first one to pull over.
That said, unless he bared its teeth at me, the dog would be in my car and in my care- until I could take him to MY vet to see if he was microchipped.
I would have a real terrible time trusting others with this simple of a task.
I can't imagine that any place would put a dog down that fast- Especially given that the owners 'may' just be on vacation?
I "lost" my dog when I got married in '76. He was to stay at a friends house- She lost him.
In the meanwhile he was picked up by the Humane Society...
By the time we got home, he had been sold, and they would NOT tell me where he was. It was an awful experience.
XOXO
Me
The following dogs are restricted or banned dogs from importation Anna (a) American pit bull terrier or pit bull terrier, (b) Japanese tosa, (c) dogo Argentino, (d) fila Brasileiro, (d1) any other dog of a breed, kind or description whose importation into Australia is prohibited by or under the Customs Act 1901 of the Commonwealth, (e) any dog declared by an authorised officer of a council...to be a restricted dog, (f) any other dog of a breed, kind or description prescribed by the regulations for the purposes of fighting
ReplyDeleteRestricted dogs may not be sold, given away, or acquired, and must be spay/neutered. They must be muzzled when in public, wear a special red-and-yellow collar, and may only be handled by a competent adult over the age of 18. The dog must live a secure enclosure when at home, and the owner must post "Warning: Dangerous Dog" signs on their property. The owner must also register the dog with the local government and notify the government if the dog attacks a person or animal, cannot be found, dies, has moved out of the area, or is now living at a different location within the local government's jurisdiction.
But they are not hunted down by an agency and killed
That actually makes Sense Mr Lester- But only as a country!
ReplyDeleteNot as a city council trying to make rules that they hope will catch on everywhere else.
It is a crazy and fearful council that reigns there.
I like your final comment of not being hunted down and killed.
Makes you kind of sad, or mad, doesn't it? Either way, we know something is just wrong about it all.
XOXO
Me
In a city of over 3 million humans, and at least as many pets, they simply do not have a choice, Anne.
ReplyDeleteI've personally known a few of the forbidden breeds mentioned above, (including one American Pit Bull, which resided in a house where three babies grew into adulthood and was one of the sweetest natured dog's I've ever come to know), and find the whole bruhaha about these animals to be ludicrous. The nature of the dog is largely, if not entirely dependent upon it's breeding and immediate ancestory. That some Pit Bulls have been bred to fight should not condemn those whose ancestors were not.
ReplyDeleteBeyond which, I don't even see the German Sheppard on that list, which I'm nearly positive is the bitingest dog of all, statistically.
I am adding a link here that shows the decision of the Cumberland County Animal Control Board. Below it will be a related story about a rescue group.
ReplyDeletehttp://fayobserver.com/articles/2011/12/06/1142020?/sac=Local
http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2011/12/06/1141925?sac=Col
It is still sickening - And more, my countrified little mind has an awful time wrapping around the thought that dogs can/seem to be so damned disposable at any point in their lives.
ReplyDeleteEven with decent owners the little rascals will, much like toddlers, just disappear on you. And it is darn scary, even when it's for only a few seconds.
Even here, when Punk is running wide open down at the river- there are times that she is out of sight with all the under/overgrowth- and I worry where the heck she went.
Years back there was nobody who would have taken a pot shot- i can't say the same now- not with all the new homes across the river and up that hill.
XOXO
me
Not sure who i had replied to, but Mr., I can easily make any dog a fighter-
ReplyDeleteIt is the people- and yes, the breeding too.
Casey still darn near cries each and every time she hears about "the breed of the dog"-
No. it's the menial mentality of the people involved.
Too, we ALWAYS, no matter the breed, have to remember that our dogs ARE animals, first middle and last-
As such, and with respect to their feelings, they still always need to be watched so very closely around children or even other dogs.
Descended from pack wolves they can be trusted- but are still animals; as we are also.
Even the best of the best can have a bad day; just like us.
But to adjudicate life or death on the issue of size is LUDICROUS!
As far as shepherds go, they are much much better as a one-man dog. And yes, they are very protective. They know their limitations- (when they are raised right) and will defend that limit to the death if they think they need too.
My father had "Prince"- Getting him as a young dog, in 1947. The dog was Pa's- no ifs, ands, or buts.
Mom and Dad got married in 1949- Mom was a big girl and could handle Prince when he so obviously disapproved of her being with Dad all the time.
In 1956, my sister was born- By the spring of '57 she was walking- Prince growled (not only throaty, but with bared teeth) as Dad held Marys hand to walk her out in the yard. He then proceeded to insinuate himself between Mary and Dad; pushing her away from Dad
It was Prince's last day at the farm.
Pa called his friend, who happened to be the dog catcher here- Prince was given a new home- a one man home again- somewhere in the U.P. of Michigan.
it must have been the right thing to do- even with that old of a dog because Prince never did leave there to try to find his way back home.
While I can't imagine having to give up a dog after having him so long, Dad did what was good and right for the sake of his family; what needed to be done.
And Prince was only doing what he had learned to do from such a young age, and that was be true to my dad.
Prince lived for another 5 years or so...
Or so the story went.
XOXO
me
Thanmk you Sweet Judy Judy Judy!
ReplyDeleteI am waiting for the pages to open as I type.
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PS
The original article was not at the Fay Observer. it was at "OurCompass.org; which then had a link to the original article.
First, from here: http://blogs.fayobserver.com/910pets
ReplyDeletePosted: 12/6/2011 5:32:44 PM by Kecia Stewart
- - - Misinformation on Internet leads to "bully breed" ban rumor - - -
"Here’s what is being proposed: the Animal Control Board is recommending to Cumberland County commissioners that the adoption of certain breeds be limited (not banned). The breeds are: pit bulls, Rottweilers, American Staffordshire terriers, chow-chows, Presa Canarios or any mix of those breeds.
Under the proposal being considered, a county resident would not be able to adopt one of those breeds and Animal Control staff would work with rescue groups from around the state and country to place the dogs.
Ok, stop there. This is where I get confused. One paragraph says they want to limit the adoption. The next says a county resident would not be able to adopt one of the breeds. Sounds like a ban to me or am I misreading something. Does anyone else read that different?"
Which then led me to an article about rabies being rampant in Cumberland County...
http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2011/12/07/1142391?sac=Local
Then Miss Babushka came and gave me links to more clarification; and the outcome of the meeting.
THANK YOU MISS JUDY JUDY JUDY!
From the 1st link:
"In October, the Animal Control board decided to recommend to county leaders that so-called bully breeds - pit bulls, Rottweilers, chow chows, American Staffordshire terriers, Presa Canarios and mixes of any of them - be rendered "unadoptable," according to minutes from the meeting.
The board hoped to find homes for as many as possible through other shelters and rescue organizations as an alternative to euthanasia.
By Monday night, Lauby said he had received more than 18,000 emails on the topic, many from activists who erroneously were told the county was to start euthanizing all such breeds Monday."
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Correct me if I am wrong, but paragraph one and two are in contrast to each other, are they not?
Paragraph 3 makes me giggle.
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me
Please take a moment to read
The second link- After reading it- and the lone comment, made me giggle too.
ReplyDeleteAs far as PETA goes, I wonder if their founder - or many of their staunch supporters even ever had a dog, child, parent situation that they lived with and through.
Or if they were ever cold enough to throw on a mink coat just because it was there -
Or got on the back of a bike in full leathers.
The group, PETA, is kind of a wacky one if you ask me. Always was- Always will be.
---As an aside, all of our sick and dead {unsaleable} animals went to Roberts Mink Ranch- and I would like to think that because of that someone, somewhere, was kept plenty warm.
PETA- don't get me started...
People.
Eating.
Tasty.
Animals.
hehehe
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Me
Wait... There's more! hehehe
ReplyDeletehttp://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2011/12/04/1141076
Published: 12:03 AM, Sun Dec 04, 2011 Dog problems need a real fix, not a Band-AidTim White, (info below). I feel Animal Control's pain. I get the staff's frustration, as they field call after call - more than 200 a day - from people having problems with aggressive dogs. They can't begin to deal with all of them. They just don't have the staff. And the frustration builds when time after time, it's the same breed of dog causing the problem. About 80 percent of the complaints, Animal Control Director Dr. John Lauby says, are about pit bulls. So it's not surprising, in a way, that the county's Animal Control Board wants to prevent people from adopting "dangerous" breeds (pit bulls, Rottweilers, American Staffordshire terriers, chows, Presa Canarios or mixes of those breeds) from the county shelter. *News of this possibility spread quickly - no, explosively - through the animal-activist community, which launched a campaign against the proposal.
(That made me smile)!!
I feel their pain too. Truth is, breed bans, in any form, don't work. Places that have banned pit bulls have continued to have dog-bite problems. Although pit bulls (and the aforementioned list of other breeds) can be more aggressive than the average, say, golden retriever, many of them are sweethearts. I've spent a lot of time with Serious Dog Trainers in the last few years, many of them good friends (including the Serious Trainer who's also a veterinarian and my wife). I've seen what good training can do, even with "dangerous" breeds. Few of those puppies come into the world dangerous. Many of them become dangerous because of their interaction with humans. Any poorly socialized dog can be aggressive and dangerous. Through mistreatment or training, they can become killers. And that leads us to our real problem: bad owners and breeders. This city has a big population of people who use pit bulls, Rotties and other big, mean-looking dogs as ano