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June 14, 2010
Medicinal Marijuana: A Patient-Driven Phenomenon 

Fourteen states and the District of Columbia have launched a medical experiment that doesn't follow any of the rules of science.

By approving the use of marijuana as a medicine — with varying kinds of restrictions — these jurisdictions are bypassing the federal government's elaborate processes for approving medicines.

That's highly unusual. In fact, it's only happened once in recent memory: In the late 1970s, about half the states legalized the use of laetrile, an extract of apricot pits, as a cancer treatment. At least 50,000 cancer patients took it before it was exposed as totally useless.

Nobody argues that marijuana is the new laetrile. For one thing, nobody's claiming it cures any fatal diseases. But it is a departure from the usual rules of evidence for drugs.

Struggling With Chronic Illness

If you want to understand why it's happening, you should spend some time with Ellen Lenox Smith of suburban Rhode Island: a lively, petite, 60-year-old grandmother, former schoolteacher and one-time master swimmer.

When you meet Smith, you don't suspect anything's seriously wrong with her health. But in fact, she has two incurable diseases: One, called sarcoidosis, is ravaging her lungs. The other makes her tendons and ligaments loose and fragile.

"My knee tore, and two weeks later the other knee tore," Smith says. "And the same thing with my shoulder. It was one shoulder and then the other shoulder. So I was tearing like tissue paper, and no one knew why."

After years of misdiagnosis and surgical repairs, Smith learned she has a rare genetic disease of connective tissue called Ehlers-Danlos syndrome.

"My condition causes pain throughout the entire body," Smith says. Most people with Ehlors-Danlos "live on morphine and OxyContin," she says, but she has bad reactions to these and nearly all other painkillers. "I can't tolerate them."

An Unlikely Prescription

Feeling desperate with pain and suffering sleepless nights, Smith consulted pain specialist Dr. Pradeep Chopra. This was about four years ago, just after Rhode Island became the 11th state to legalize medical marijuana. Chopra had never recommended marijuana to a patient, and he never imagined he would.

But in Smith's case, he says, "she had absolutely no other option. So very, very hesitantly, I said, 'Listen, why don't you try medicinal marijuana?' "

Smith says, "I can remember laughing and thinking, 'I wish my parents were alive to hear this conversation!' You spend your life being told to stay away from certain things, and here I have a doctor suggesting it could help me."

Smith appealed to one of her adult sons, who scrounged some pot from a friend. Because of her lung condition, she couldn't smoke it, so she soaked it in oil and stirred the oil into applesauce.

"I tried it that night — scared to death! I mean, I had no idea what to expect," she says. "The only time I'd ever tried marijuana was once in college, and it was so horrible. So I was really nervous about it.

"But it was so amazing! I took this oil, went to bed, and the next thing I know, it was morning," Smith says. "I had literally slept through the entire night for the first time in months."

Patient: Marijuana Saved My Life

She's used marijuana ever since — sometimes during the daytime, too — and says she's never gotten high from it.

"I wake up in the morning, my head is clear, I read the papers, do my Sudoku puzzles, and my mind is fine," she says. "Somehow this drug attacks pain, and I get pain relief but I don't get stoned."

This point is controversial. Some researchers believe patients who use marijuana medically do have psychoactive effects, but they have the effect of shifting patients' attention away from their pain, perhaps in addition to a direct pain-relieving effect. JoAnne Leppanen of the Rhode Island Patient Advocacy Coalition says: "What pain patients tell me is, 'Cannabis does not get rid of my pain. It's still there. But I don't care so much.' So it's affecting their mental attitude."

For Smith, relief is far from total, but she can deal with her pain now, especially since she sleeps well. Smith says marijuana has saved her life.

"My husband says it, too," she says. "I don't think I'd be here. I think I probably would have passed away if I didn't have this drug. There was nothing — nothing left to help me."

A Slippery Slope?

Smith is exactly the kind of patient legislators have in mind when they allow marijuana to be used as a medicine. But some think legalization is dangerous.

"Approving medical use of marijuana by political referendum is a slippery slope," says Joseph Califano, director of the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University. "What's the next substance we'll approve by political referendum?"

Califano was U.S. Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare during the laetrile period.

"We have the best system in the world for clearing drugs in the Food and Drug Administration, and that's the system we should follow," he says.

There was a time when Califano's view was the prevailing opinion, but that may not be the case any more. It seems that many in the medical world who once were dead set against medical marijuana are now not so sure.

The FDA specifically opposes smoking marijuana for medical purposes. But spokeswoman Karen Riley said in an e-mail message that the FDA "is willing to consider proposals by investigators to conduct clinical trials using marijuana."

"We do have a number of open investigational new drug applications that study marijuana," Riley writes. "Some of these study the ability of marijuana to treat disease or medical conditions. Some use marijuana to assess treatments for addiction. Some could study the physiological or pathological effects of marijuana in the body."

Problems With Researching Pot

However, scientists say doing research with marijuana requires the patience of Job, largely because the federal government still classes marijuana as a Schedule I controlled substance with no legitimate medical use. That status requires researchers to get a license from the Drug Enforcement Administration, part of the Justice Department. The DEA relies on the National Institute on Drug Abuse, or NIDA, for advice on research proposals.

"I know one research group who says it took a year to get feedback from NIDA," says Dr. John Halpern of Harvard Medical School and McLean Hospital. "Then when they resubmitted their proposal, they got another set of criticisms."

The director of NIDA, Dr. Nora Volkow, declined to be interviewed about medical marijuana.

Research Has Made Headway

But other people in the field are open-minded about the medical uses of marijuana. Take Dr. Glen Hanson, for example. He's a former acting director of NIDA and still advises the agency. He does drug research at the University of Utah, and he heads the Utah Addiction Center.

Hanson is familiar with the scientific evidence on marijuana. Running through a list of things some people claim marijuana's good for, Hanson says there is legitimate support for many conditions.

Pain, for instance. "Yes, there's some significant evidence that it's useful in some types of pain," Hanson says.

Multiple sclerosis? "That's more controversial," he replies. "There are clearly some individuals with multiple sclerosis who say that it helps them."

Glaucoma: "There is some [evidence], but again, controversial."

Seizures: "Again, some evidence that it may be useful in dealing with some seizures."

The list goes on. Hanson says there's evidence for some other claims, but not for others.

The thing scientists are really excited about, Hanson says, is the discovery that many organs in the human body and brain have receptors for the chemicals in cannabis. That observation was first made in 1988, but over the past 10 years scientists have done a lot of work to figure out how these receptors work.

"This area has exploded," Hanson says. "If you're asking is this a system that can be targeted for therapeutic benefit, I think everybody who knows the scientific pieces would acknowledge that potential."

Long Way To Go

But much of the research is in test tubes and animals, not in real patients with real diseases. Human marijuana research is spotty, studies are small and short, and results are conflicting. So there's a big gap between the testimonials — like Ellen Smith's — and the science.

Hanson has no doubt that cannabis research will lead to important new designer drugs for a number of maladies. But he has no idea when.

"We don't have a timeline," he says, "Is it going to be five years, 10 years, 20 years? That doesn't satisfy and meet the needs of people who are suffering today. So for me, I have no problem using what we've got — and today we have marijuana."

Patient-Driven Movement

Chopra, Smith's physician, agrees. But he's not without misgivings.

"With medicine, we are used to prescribing a fixed dose with a fixed time interval so we can monitor the side effects or the efficacy of a drug," Chopra says. "With medicinal marijuana, it's the other way around. We have no control over the dose or how often it's taken. And so it's really up to the patients to experiment on their own and figure out how much they need and how often."

At the same time, Chopra believes marijuana should be available to patients with no other good options. It's the patients who are driving this movement, he says.

"The people have spoken," Chopra says. "It's basically the people who have come up and said, 'It does help us, look at us, we're doing well.' They're telling the establishment, 'You're wrong,' and the establishment has listened to them."

At least important parts of the establishment are listening. President Obama has said his administration has no interest in prosecuting doctors and patients who use marijuana — as long as their state allows it.


 
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23 comments:


  1. Thank you in advance for your comments-
    This is where I stand:

    I am seriously considering taking Casey to Michigan- It is, after all, where our tribe is located.
    The more I read, the more I consider this.
    It would not only help with her pain, but all of her nausea and vomiting and inability to gain weight...

    XOXO
    Me

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  2. And due to Casey's previous sptx's (spontaneous pneumothorax) she would not be able to smoke it.
    There are other ways...

    XOXO
    Me

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  3. I am all for it!!!!My step dad had lung cancer and without it his last 4 months would have been hell on earth but this way it eased his pain he could eat etc.We had to go to the street to get it but it why not!!!!!!

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  4. Hello Mommy!

    Thank you for posting this, it is something that I’ll be curious to see exactly what people think about this topic… I don’t mean to blog within your blog, but I’ve asked for a few perspectives on my situation, if you don’t mind… And, here’s my story, too, for those who might not know the whole situation! I seem to have gotten long-winded, though, so I apologize in advance! Enjoy!

    My Story

    I’m very for the legalizing of medical marijuana. I’ve dealt with a debilitating and killing illness for about 5 years (had it my whole life more than likely, but the worst of it was those five years) that left me in the hospital for weeks on end, eating nothing to give the pancreas a rest, still nauseated despite the fact that nothing was going in my mouth, and in constant pain. I’d get out of the hospital only to find myself back there sometimes after only a day or so…

    Even though the worst of this illness is over, I’m dealing with all the long-term effects it has taken on my body, as well as the effects of the major surgeries that I’ve had. I’m severely anemic, requiring IV iron infusions once a week for a minimum of 6 weeks. These make me sicker than I was before getting them. The doctor at the hospital ER said it’s the iron wrecking havoc on my body. It can do damage on a normal body, and with mine being anywhere BUT normal, it’s giving me quite the long list of side effects. I’ve gotten insomnia from it, diarrhea, vomiting, nausea, weakness to the point that I get sore muscles just walking, painful joints, bad abdominal pain, and the list goes on.

    Most of it I can deal with as it’s not too bad. The pain, however, has been pretty bad these past two days. The vomiting is a danger within itself: I’m already deficient in iron and B12 (those are just what we know of right now) and throwing up is going to make these deficiencies worse, much worse. It’s not every day, thankfully, and most days I can manage to eat fine. It’s those rare days that are so horrible that drinking water churns my stomach. On these days I will my body to try and work with me as it’s all I can do.

    If I were approved for the medical marijuana, it would do away with almost all of these symptoms. Pain, nausea, insomnia, vomiting; all would be taken care of. On the days that the iron is causing severe side effects, it would allow me to be able to eat and sleep without worrying. It would allow food to stay in my system long enough so I would have a much better chance of absorbing the nutrients my body is being deprived of.

    Would it cure me? No, probably not… But it would give me a chance to cure myself. It would give me a chance for sleep, the only time the body truly heals itself. Most of all, it would give me a chance for a normal life…

    I made it to my LARP game this past Saturday for only an hour, for the first time in months. The pain got to me after that and I had to go home. We play a different small game with about 4 people on Wednesday nights, and even though this is played in someone’s home, where I can sit comfortably on the couch, I didn’t go for over 2 months. I was scared that pain would kick in, or I’d throw up, or etc…, so I didn’t go. These games are so simple, and not a lot of physical hardship at all, but the slightest chance of complications hinders my ability to attend.

    This wouldn’t be so important to your average person, but to me, it’s a big deal. Many people would say “So what? It’s not like it’s necessary for you to go…” and they’d be right. However, this is what I enjoy doing. I haven’t even been able to spend time with the horses I love so much. I’m worried that I’d need to cancel if I set something up with Kelli or Michelle and ended up in pain or not feeling well. Even something as simple as setting up time to go and brush the horses seems like a daunting task when faced with the complications that could happen if I got sick… So I stay home, or visit Mom’s house. Not that I mind staying hom

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  5. I feel for you and lets get this legalized :)

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  6. CaseyAnne,
    You absolutely need to send this to our representatives in Washington, you need to send it to all of your doctors as well.

    Please include all specifics of your diseases, diagnoses, surgeries, (and complications from those), and all else.

    I love you- Forevermorelonger.

    XOXO
    Mama D.

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  7. Absolutely!
    And might I thank you- coming from a doctor, it means not all doctors are against this.
    That gives me hope Heidi. i thank you again.

    XOXO
    Me

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  8. Here are a few links I had saved-
    They may/may not work, (brief words about them follow the link).


    http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/local/green_bay/local_wluk_navarino_marijuana_plants_destroyed_200910141110_rev1#

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    "Why are those plants evil? Because they don't come in a bottle that says pfizer, eli lilly or bristol myers squibb on the side." - Bill Maher
    http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20091013/GPG0101/91013005/1207&located=rss

    ***

    http://www.naturalnews.com/027257_hemp_America_farmers.html
    As anyone who isn't smoking crack has already figured out (and even a few who are, America's drug policy is a scandalous failure. Not only has the so-called "War on Drugs" utterly failed to stop the flow of recreational drugs in America, it has criminalized struggling farmers who seek to grow industrial hemp as a profitable, renewable crop that's in high demand across multiple industries.

    The War on Drugs has accomplished one thing, though: It has filled the nation's prisons with small-time "offenders" who got caught with an ounce or two of weed in their pockets. America's drug policy, it seems, is a boon for the prison industry, but a curse upon our nation's farmers.

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  9. I can personally vouch for its effectiveness at pain management. My physician is willing to sign the papers for me to have it legally, but I don't know what it would do to my professional license so I haven't applied. I live in Michigan. Please contact me privately, so I can give you some resources.

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  10. Also, for everything you wanted to know about this "drug"

    http://boards.cannabis.com/medicinal-cannabis-health/161539-granny-storm-crows-list.html

    There is no way I can get to all of those links, but there is about a zillion of them!!!

    XOXO
    Me

    She has also included this message:
    "How this list came about-

    "If the truth won't do, then something is wrong!"

    Those were the furious words of my grandfather to my Mother. I had walked in from joyfully stuffing my face with red raspberries in the garden, straight into "war zone"! My gentle grandfather in a fury, his hand raised! Mom was just beginning to shrink back away from him.
    They saw me and quickly sent me away. But it was too late, the scene and the words were seared into my 5-year-old brain. That was over 55 years ago, but I still remember it clearly.
    My grandfather was a minister, one very short step away from God in my 5 year old mind. It was one of those life changing moments. It is still rare for me to tell a lie.
    I never found out what my Mother's lie was.

    As I child, I suffered a traumatic head injury. Another child tried to murder me with a hammer. I was left with frequent migraines. At 19, like many rebellious teens, I tried cannabis. It took about a year for me to make the connection between using cannabis and the absence of my normally frequent migraines. I have used cannabis ever since.

    I am an avid reader. While perusing an old book on herbal medicine, I read how the little old ladies of Mexico made and used a cannabis/tequila rub on their arthritic hands. Then I met Joey, an epileptic musician. He told me another interesting fact- when he had pot he could cut his medication in half! On a camping trip years later, I smelled an unmistakable odor. Following my nose, I was totally shocked to find a grandmotherly lady in her 70s puffing away on a delicate oriental pipe. "Parkinson's. And the pot's way cheaper than the pills!" Her nephew kept her well supplied, she said. We had a nice chat about various medical uses of cannabis.

    Epilepsy, Parkinson's, arthritis, and my migraines! What else was it good for? Yet every news article on cannabis that I saw, claimed one new horror after another. Men grew breasts and were impotent. Women became sterile or miscarried. It made you crazy and murderous. Made you lazy and do nothing. It caused cancer and heart attacks...What I had learned on my own and from others and what I was being told in the press were so different!

    What was the truth? I began researching. I printed the first studies up and kept them in a notebook, just as a personal reference. The notebook quickly filled. I started a Word file of the URLs and on July 30 2007, I posted it.
    It continues to grow.


    Here's some of what I have found. All I've done is copy the URLs, then put them all in some semblance order for everyone to use as a reference. Please feel free to share this list with anyone who could benefit from it. " end quote





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  11. Thank you so much! Please look for your PM...
    Please. I will read any/everything at this point to help Casey.

    XOXO
    Me

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  12. At the very LEAST, marijuana should be decriminalized. Wouldn't it be nice to grow in your backyard the plant that makes you feel better? I frankly don't understand what "they" are protecting us from. If it were no longer illegal, all criminal activity involving pot would cease.

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  13. You raise an important argument-
    I believe that will be the next step in this battle. Medicinal use will probably have to come first.

    I see that, in Michigan, you can grow your own according to their law, if you have the prescription...

    XOXO
    Me

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  14. Unlike many other illegal drugs, pot doesn't need to be processed. Just grown, harvested and dried. If EVERYONE could do it, the profit now earned by smugglers (etc) would dry up and the criminal element associated with it would dry up as well. The fact that it is illegal keeps the cost up and creates additional crime.

    I know a few people who get paranoid on pot. I know it does affect the body - it isn't totally harmless to use. It does affect memory and fertility. I have never seen ANYONE get belligerent or violent while using pot alone (many use it in combination with other drugs.) As drugs go, I don't see it as much of a threat to our society.

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  15. Marijuana, when used for medicinal purposes is a wonderful thing for those who NEED it. As with just about anything, it's those who use it in a recreational manner that abuse it and ruin it for those who really need it.

    I hope they do get around to legalizing it everywhere. It sure would cut down on those drug dealers trying to make money off of people. At least where marijuana was concerned.

    But any person whose body is not experiencing a need for the drug for pain relief, will have a whole different reaction to it. That's pretty much the way it is with any drug used for pain. Those who don't need it will get high....those who do need it will get relief! And if you really need it and get relief and THEN get high.....then so be it. :)

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  16. I came, I read, and went to look up information Anna and read this :

    Epilepsy - in some patients, epileptic seizures can be prevented with Marijuana use;

    So pass the cookies please ;-)

    We are allowed a certain amount for private use here but not bags of it.

    I say if it helps Casey and yourself in the process for that matter go for it Anna

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  17. We understand Casey's frustration...as Drew has been labeled a "drug seeker" by Dr's. It really pisses me to no end when Dr's that don't have the first clue as to what a paitent has been thru and its the first time they are treating him and they refuse to give him anything but Tylenol for pain...or Advil(which really shows their stupidity seeing he's on blood thinners and can't take Advil or any type ibuprofen). Just erks my last nerve because he's a "certain" age he has to be a "drug seeker".
    I'm for anything that reduces pain in those that need it. No one should have to suffer ill side effects in this day and age. Drew isn't in need of pain relief of this type..as his pain can be managed with readily availbale pain meds.
    He isn't plagued by nausea ...and can eat you out of house and home. For those that need Medical Marijuana..I think it should be available for purchase.

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  18. I say LEGALIZE it and get it over with. Treat it like alcohol, you have to be an adult to purchase it and smoke or ingest it. If you are caught under the influence of it while driving then you will be ticketed and fined. Tax the hell out of it and see some of our deficits go away. And wow, can you imagine the farmers being able to decide if they would like to grow some marijuana crops? I think they would be happy!

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  19. I think California might be considering it. The state is dying for tax money.

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  20. Posted a comment here in reply to a very ignorant person... Wanted to say a bit more to said person, but couldn't be too mouthy as there's a terms/conditions thingy that regulates what you can/cannot say to others, so it'd get chucked out if I got too out of hand... Here's the comment I made (the nasty one I replied to is in there too...)

    I might have suggested that I use pot for medicinal purposes, even though I don't... Just took the words of those who use it, and the relief they got from it, and stood up for that category of people... Hope that's okay...

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    I think I speak for a great number of people out there when I post this reply to “WHATTHE”… Maybe we aren’t all in exactly the same situation, but similar ones. And the poster of this comment obviously needs to be informed of these situations before making such a judgmental comment. His/her comment was this:
    “dope smokin idiots! what good are they? laziest people I ever worked with! dangereous
    too. Thankyou to all law enforcement involved, Keep up the good work.”

    So, to WHATTHE, I say:

    How much more judgmental can you be??? Marijuana has been approved in 14 states for medical use. I bet you'd be the first person to look down on me for using it for this purpose...

    Might I suggest you try a few things out before you judge everyone by the same uninformed standards?

    Try living with pain so bad that it hurts to even breathe. Try being so nauseated that water even makes you throw up. Try not being able to sleep for months on end because any position isn’t comfortable for long enough. Try being in the hospital for weeks on end, then only being out for a week at the most before needing to go right back in. Try dropping down to less than 80 pounds because your body is failing to keep food in long enough to absorb any nutrients. Try having a pancreas that is failing and has shut down your colon twice. Try knowing that this isn’t the last organ it will affect; knowing that it will shut down your kidneys, liver, lungs and others before it fails. Try knowing that you are but 21 years old and have less than TWO YEARS LEFT. That fact is bad enough, but then try knowing that the pain and everything else will get much worse in this amount of time…

    Even the strongest man-made pharmaceutical drugs won’t touch the pain. Since they only make pain pills, separate from nausea pills, separate from sleeping pills, you’re put on so many medications that you actually have to keep a written out (long) list of all that you take in order to remember them all…

    Then you find a naturally growing plant that has the power to make the pain bearable. This simple plant allows you to be able to eat freely for the first time in years without worrying about nausea; it takes that away completely. This plant allows you sleep for the first time in quite a while. It helps you gain weight so you no longer look like you’re anorexic. One simple, completely natural plant to replace over 30+ prescription medications you take daily. Not only will this plant give you relief, but it will give you TIME. Time to find someone who is able to cure you of this debilitating disease. And the best part is: IT GIVES YOU A QUALITY OF LIFE THAT SURPASSES ANYTHING YOU’VE DREAMED OF HAVING AGAIN…

    Try finding this relief, this dream-like life you couldn’t imagine being able to have, only to have someone like yourself tell you that by using this plant you are an idiot, you are lazy, and you are dangerous… What else did your comment say? Oh yeah, “WHAT GOOD ARE THEY?”

    This type of view hurts… Judge NOT lest ye be judged…

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  21. My sister before she died had a prescription for weed and it sure helped, she began eating more, drinking more fluids, she was more relaxed and able to sleep better, I am a firm believer that this plant should become a medicine for all who need it.

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  22. ... And MORE! from my mailbox this morning...

    XOXO
    Me

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    Saturday, June 26, 2010

    Greetings fellow Bizarros:
    Medical marijuana has been in the news a lot recently. There is a big controversy over how available it should be and who should be allowed to dispense it. The state of California actually wants to make it legal! In my opinion, certain deadly chemicals should be illegal. Crystal meth, crack cocaine and other chemicals and con-centrates will kill you. Marijuana, on the other hand, while intoxicating, is not deadly. Yet it is pursued with as much enthusiasm as its more deadly counterparts. The war on drugs has had some other very unusual side effects. Does it make sense to ban a crop in the United States that can have a large, positive economic and environmental impact <span style="font-family: lucida sans unicode

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