The picture speaks for itself...
With a warning before you read:
Red flags, migraines, and anxiety makes me swear.
A lot.
(If you are easily offended, leave now).
.With a warning before you read:
Red flags, migraines, and anxiety makes me swear.
A lot.
(If you are easily offended, leave now).
Good Early Morning;
I can't sleep.
My head is throbbing, and my stomach feels as though it is ripped from my throat.
As I am sitting here, gathering my thoughts, it occurred to me that I was more than a bit chilled. I threw on a blanket... Then finally have turned the thermostat back up to 67.
Still chilled, but the smell of reigniting the furnace is gone now. That new 'burn' smell always bothers me as it burns that bit of dust off the system.
Punk came and laid between my cold feet and the register.
Sassy dog.
Next time she will lay ON my feet, or get shooed away.
Back to Master Gabriel...
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Picture taken last Monday...
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This one, taken on Sunday, 09/14/08-
As he helped me pick some veggies from the field;
trying not to get lost~
(those weeds left behind by the field hands).
As he helped me pick some veggies from the field;
trying not to get lost~
(those weeds left behind by the field hands).
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We went to court again on Gabriel's behalf yesterday.
Roberta has now received the formal complaint against her. She also decided to have her 'new' boyfriend accompany her to court. (A completely inappropriate appearance as far as I am concerned).
But wait... What if anything, of Berta's parenting skilss are appropriate of late?
In the complaint, she admitted to using marijuana for the last 6 months of her pregnancy! What effect this will have on our Sam remains to be seen...
Intuition?
~I absolutely KNEW there was a reason, way beyond me being concerned about Berta calling the cops on me...
ALWAYS listen to your guts!
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We went to court again on Gabriel's behalf yesterday.
Roberta has now received the formal complaint against her. She also decided to have her 'new' boyfriend accompany her to court. (A completely inappropriate appearance as far as I am concerned).
But wait... What if anything, of Berta's parenting skilss are appropriate of late?
In the complaint, she admitted to using marijuana for the last 6 months of her pregnancy! What effect this will have on our Sam remains to be seen...
Intuition?
~I absolutely KNEW there was a reason, way beyond me being concerned about Berta calling the cops on me...
ALWAYS listen to your guts!
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Not that the intake worker gave a good damn, but Casey did inform her before we went into the courtroom that this guy is a "Registered Sex Offender".
Did it make the case worker then take note?
Nope.
Not that the intake worker gave a good damn, but Casey did inform her before we went into the courtroom that this guy is a "Registered Sex Offender".
Did it make the case worker then take note?
Nope.
Did she spare a few seconds to even inform the judge?
Nope.
CLICK HERE for the Wisconsin Sex Offender Website.
(Enter "Michael A. Turner" if you want to know more).
(Enter "Michael A. Turner" if you want to know more).
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The charge that he was found guilty of and spent years in prison for?
948.02(2) (Second degree sexual assault of a child).
948.02(2) (Second degree sexual assault of a child).
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During the hearing, it was found that Roberta could pick up Gabriel on her own, and NOT have supervised visitation.
I am SICKENED (and stunned) with this new recommendation.
As Casey was too...
(Mostly though, afraid that Gabriel will be either harmed; or simply disappear on us during one of these visits).
We left that hearing, (Casey and I), came back here, grabbed a few papers that I printed up from the website for verification- and brought them to the caseworkers office.
She wasn't "IN" at this point, but the receptionist DID stamp the papers as "received"
Then over to the States office building, where we met with Turners case manager. As it stands, there seems to be a conflict with his registered address.
His address for the DOC is one place. The address that he lives at is another, miles away.
(And need I mention that he is too very close to a park/playground AND two schools)???
This worker, though pleasant and caring, really did not seem too troubled with hearing this.
His address for the DOC is one place. The address that he lives at is another, miles away.
(And need I mention that he is too very close to a park/playground AND two schools)???
This worker, though pleasant and caring, really did not seem too troubled with hearing this.
She told us to find out the owners name of the house they are living in, and go from there.
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I guess there really is no one that is truly concerned with this information.
We have all been led, by this FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY, that we know where these convicts live.
Word to the wise:
DO NOT EVER BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW WHERE SEX OFFENDERS LIVE.
Word to the wise:
DO NOT EVER BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW WHERE SEX OFFENDERS LIVE.
Sick, ain't it?
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I also went to this site. CLICK HERE. And found out that he has quite a record with the State of Wisconsin; although I saw no drug charges.
(Again, enter "Michael A. Turner" if you want to know more).
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I also went to this site. CLICK HERE. And found out that he has quite a record with the State of Wisconsin; although I saw no drug charges.
(Again, enter "Michael A. Turner" if you want to know more).
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- Where the hell does Roberta find these perverts?
- What the hell makes them (or herself) so attractive?
- And what in the EFFING hell is she even thinking in the first place?
The state worker said Turner had just been in, and yes Roberta was with him.
So Roberta does know about his record. ~WTFH?
Is your own head spinning yet???
Casey and I made tracks to the other side of town then; giving the temporary foster family a copy of his file from the DOC.
(Not sure what opportunities for denial of visitation this will give them, if any, but at least now they know too).
Trust me on this...
If anything bad happens to Gabriel, or if he gets 'lost', some heads will roll.
And I will start right at the State level, then CPS, Social Services.
Then the court commissioner, and work my way down.
Today then, I shall make sure that the city police and the sheriffs department are also given these papers with the conflicting addresses for this guy.
(I have to go to both because this guy lives in the city, but his address with the DOC is out of town).
Oh, and have you ever wondered how the state keeps track?
Q. How do they verify where sex offenders live?
A.They send out a letter, and the perv simply has to reply to that.
Then I shall have to find out who Gabriel's GAL is, and to ensure that he also has copies of this all.
My anxiety minds bigtime.
So very hard to function with all of that.
That, and the fact that I have had a major headache for a couple of days now.
Comes and goes.
Needs a shot, but no 'how' to get that in...
It is SO hard to be doing all of this running around when a simple phone call, (and a double check on their own damned computers), would verify all of this.
And if it wasn't for Gabriel's safety I would NOT be doing everyone elses job for them either.
***Wouldn't you think that all of this would upset someone (besides myself and Casey); and that there would actually BE someone who gives a sh*t about it all???
Sadly, if you thought that, you would be wrong.
Any lawyers out there?
Somebody PLEASE give me a leg to stand on.
For now I am going to try to rest a bit-
These damned pills are clearly not working.
Love to all.
XOXO
Anne
Originally posted to my Y! 360, Tuesday September 16, 2008 - 05:44am (CDT)
Anne if on these visits she has Gabe around someone who she knows is a registered sex offender then you can file neglect charges and her visits will have t be supervised or not at all. (COurse it may be to late then) I;m so sorry for Gabe and for you! Hugs and love to you and yours!
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ReplyDeleteSweet Becca,
She already HAS neglect and abandonment charges against her.
XOXO
Me
I know here in Pa Anne they feel "the courts" a dysfunctional family is better than none....so this means no matter what is going on in the home...no matter how much they "know" it's all a joke most of the time I know of a family here too going through the same...and nothing is being done about that either....sad very sad
ReplyDeleteGood morning Bart,
ReplyDeleteIm so sorry your head is hurting and all that goes with that.. Im wondering if stress is giving it a helping hand?? May be awhile before it decides to let up then.
I cant believe .. 1... neither the case worker nor the courts seemed to care about the guy. 2.. that no one seems to care that his address is not where he is living.. whats up with that?
How I would love to say its not like that here.. but Im sure its the same all over the country. Sad isnt it!
Can you find out what the original charges were?... I know the one for Texas gives you details of the original.. Not that Im trying to downgrade the issue but sometimes its kid on kid and the charges are there following them around forever. Also it will tell if he likes boys or girls.
I know until I got clean and sober.. the caliber of men that I attracted and seemed to like.. were not of the best either. I think it has to do with where you are hanging out and the people you are hanging out with. Just an observation.
We can only hope and pray that the paperwork for Gabe comes through quickly and gets him into a loving home soon.
Hope your feeling better soon and someone actually decides to pay attention.
Luv and hugs to you and Casey
beepluvsbart.com
I'm sorry your going through all this, case workers, social workers, their so under staffed and overwhelmed with the work load they simply dont have time to pay attention, Our legal system truely bites.
ReplyDeleteHoly Godfrey, I have no idea but I think I would be sporting a shotgun at this point. The of course I would be the one in jail and not the people show should be. *sigh*
ReplyDeleteOh my gosh! I am so sorry your hurting and not feeling well and I am so sickened by our world. I can't belive no one cares but you two. That's why so many kids end up getting hurt because they look away!! I am still praying and thinking of you all! Big hugs your way!!!
ReplyDeleteI am thinking that this is a BIG red flag as you say but like you say you have to get someone to listen first! It is very sad that no one cares as to where he really lives! I have 5 offenders in my apartment complexes alone! My apartment place has like 6 different buildings and to know this makes me sick too! Harman will NEVER be alone outside or ever! I am sorry you are hurting and going through this and wish there was something I could do. If there is let me know! I hate those people, my uncle is out and is around my brothers and all that junk now and still makes me sick! I hope SOMETHING happens to someone will listen and not something happen as in with Gabe either! Lots of love
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ReplyDeleteSo then I ask, what the hell are they there for anyway???
ReplyDeleteThe one lady at the State told me this much.
He likes girls.
Young girls.
15. (He was 20).
And he was found guilty of this violation.
But like I told the worker- THAT is neither here nor there.
He is obviously NOT compliant with the sex offender registry.
Guess I will have to go inform those neighbors then.
ReplyDeleteNo. You are gith. They are overworked etc... BUT I am doing all of their damned work, so what do you suppose their problem is then?
ReplyDeleteLove,
Godfrey
ReplyDeleteYeah... damn sad that if I were to go downtown and absolutely demand attention that I would probably be put in jail to cool off.
And while I would not give a damn about a few free meals, it would remove me too far away from this whole bag of nuts.
(And too far away from even begging a ride to get a shot for my head).
Your place sounds like an awful place to set up housekeeping.
ReplyDeleteMove out now.
But then wait, chances are that if you found them on the registry then they really DON'T live there
Like I said, something had better not happen to Master Gabriel.
I'm sorry about all this, and how it's making you feel (and how it's making me feel too!)
ReplyDeleteMaybe I watch too much crime drama on TV but here's the suspicion your red flag raised in me. Is Roberta using Gabriel in "exchange" for a place to stay or for drugs, with the pedophile? Think about it... (I do believe you'd see a change in his personality if this were going on, and you did say Gabriel has been acting differently.) I hope this isn't the case, but it bears looking into, considering the circumstances. Any chance a counselor at child protection services could talk one-on-one with Gabriel about what goes on with him and his mommy, and/or him and his mommy's boyfriend?
Also, if Turner is currently on probation for second degree sexual assault of a child, and if he's caught with or near a child, the cops can run him in for probation violation.
Oh Annie, I wouldn't wish this on anyone. I have actual experience in this area (way too gruesome to go into details here). As always, you know how to reach me, and I'll be here for you for whatever you need. HUGS
Wow, I am really sorry to hear about the new news...I truely hope that these people will start to listen to you, I would if I were them, just simply because I know as a Mother, not to mess with anyone else's family...I also agree with calling the police when Roberta is around that Turner man with Gabe. The more and more complaints and calls they get the more sick of it the police will be and maybe then they will do something. I would even think of starting the write letters to the Governer, these laws in Wisconsin need to be tougher, especially on neglectful parents, it should not take a child being seriously hurt or killed before something is done...I wish you all the luck and if there is anything I can do to help, let me know!!
ReplyDeleteTry to have a better day, I understand how them danged headached can be....
XXOO & HUGS
Bonnie
ReplyDeleteWell, we shall see about that after i go to the police station and visit the county boys too.
I am not a doctor but I have seen no bleeding or any tears etc that would make me believe what you have said above.
Now please let me know how the hell to get to a counselor at CPS when I cannot even get a return phone call?
Hmm... Funny that you mention this.
ReplyDeleteBecause that's EXACTLY what we were told when we asked for help in the first place...
'Scuse me while I run downtown now...
ReplyDeleteOh and a heads up to a few of you...
Keep your cell phones on.
I might need bail money yet...
It's very easy to molest a child without leaving any signs. A lot of times the only clue is how the child acts.
ReplyDeleteFriggin disgusting.
ReplyDeleteI know you - you'll find a way.
ReplyDeleteThats a little diff though. If she has Gabe around this man it will be considered the endangerment of the child. Trust me Anne I know about this one. Tell you how later in a PM!
ReplyDeleteI would be absolutely furious in your shoes. Praying for you and your family & this intolerable situation!!!
ReplyDeleteThis Ps me off! I am so sorry.. they don't give a F*&K until they get plastered on the front page because the child was murdered or abused beyond repair by either the family or the foster family. I'd be in jail because I know how OH's child protective services work. It don't!
ReplyDeleteOh Anne I'm so sorry that no one seems to want to do their jobs. Here you are giving them all this ammo and they just say thanks you and thats it. This truly sux!
ReplyDeleteI hope someone somewhere listens to you and does something.
Good luck & God Bless you & Gabe!
SICK SICK SICK.... I don't know how else to put it... I don't care if he raped a two year old or a 17 year old. RAPE is RAPE! My stomach just churns at the thought of it... I can't believe that anyone would put their children in proximity to someone convicted of rape...
ReplyDeleteI don't understand why the state will not do anything to help Gabriel or us either. I guess they are just overwhelmed... Nope, sorry, not an excuse. So if the cops get overwhelmed will they stop arresting murderers? Just because something is common doesn't make it good... Pubic lice is common... 'Nuff said...
I truly hope something is done with this. Something that will stop putting my nephew in the hands of people who want to do nothing but mistreat him or harm him...
I hope you are feeling better after you got some sleep!
Love you much much,
~Casey
My advice is to contact the Gabriel's GAL. His job is to protect and serve only Gabriel. He shouldn't give a hoot about anyone else involved. That is what he/she is getting paid for.
ReplyDeleteDuring my custody battle with my ex-wife, I took some very stubborn stands and wouldn't compromise. The courts were all set to give their mother custody and placement. While the lawyers were working on the final decision the GAL basically changed the courts mind (my lawyer told me what happened behind closed doors) and I got physical placement of my kids with a shared custody.
This was a miracle my dear Anne.
Anne, the GAL and Judge (and intake worker in my opinion) informed of this information would NOT allow a registered sex offender to be anywhere near Gabriel during visits. the current custody order needs to be revised to say that.
ReplyDeleteAnd, if Roberta violates that condition in the order her visits should return to being supervised. you have a right to be outraged.
hang in there Anne, love you... k
ReplyDeleteIn YOUR opinion?
Well too bad... Your opinion would be wrong.
When asked by the foster mother if she (the intake worker) KNEW about this person, she said she was perfectly aware of that, and that the order stands unlss she changes it.
WHAT?!?!
the GAL can contact the intake worker directly or their supervisor.
ReplyDeleteI don't want to worry you further but sometimes the courts are 'sloppy' and don't always appoint a GAL so i do hope that is taken care of (altho they may not make that appointment until the dispositional hearing...)
this is indeed an unnecessarily difficult system sometimes.. sorry Annie.
I am losing my FREAKING mind already...
ReplyDeleteHere is the note I am writing to the intake workers supervisor...
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I have omitted personal information (for now).
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008
RE: Gabriel
and, Roberta, his mother,
Father unknown.
Dear XXX;
Two days ago, XXX revised the initial order in this case to allow for Gabriel to have UNsupervised visitation with his mother.
This, after my youngest daughter (Casey), had informed your employee, (Miss XXX) that Roberta Gaither resides with a person who is a known Lifetime Registrant Sex Offender. One Michael A. Turner, 1329 Stuart St., Green Bay, WI
(Although his address on the Wisconsin Sex Offender site claims he lives in Denmark).
This Denmark address is clearly wrong, yet no one does anything?
(The Green Bay Police Department did actually tell me to watch the house and to let them know when he was there).
*This is MY job???
The Brown County Sheriff Department had no suggestions for me, but did take all of the information I had brought along.
On Sept 15, 2008, I enclosed Turners registry status papers to Miss Adelman.
I have also sent them to Gabriel's foster parents.
I have contacted XXX, Probation and Parole Agent, (State of Wisconsin, DOC, Division of Community Corrections).
She has told me to get the landlords name at the Stuart Street address.
*Again I ask you, this is MY job???
XXX has also informed me that Roberta had accompanied Turner to his appointment on Monday, so yes Roberta does know about Turners criminal past.
He also has retail theft charges- (Of course you can bring this all up on your own computers).
WHY has none of this been addressed?
Why did your employee even recommend that Roberta bring Gabriel to XXX Cafe for visitation, knowing full well that both Roberta and Turner are employed there?
I have personally seen Gabriel be brought to Turner to say 'hi', for little visits, hugs.. etc.
Rest assured this was before I learned of his incarcerations and felonies; which are easily checked/verified online.
Also know that before I knew of this, I have personally visited Roberta, at her home with Turner present, AS WAS GABRIEL.
Neither XXX nor XXX has seen fit to restrict anything?
I do not understand this.
To me, it seems as though no one else cares about my grandson.
And I am wondering what's up with that?
Where does the Child "Protective" Service definition actually come into play?
I do not see anyone protecting my grandson; save for myself, 2 other daughters, and his temporary foster parents.
Roberta will be seeing Gabriel tomorrow (9-16-2008), and will be allowed to remove Gabriel from his foster parents home, and to bring him anywhere of her choosing, unless something gets changed today. This visit will be UNSUPERVISED if you fail to act.
Know too, that Roberta maintains contact with her drug friends from Alabama, and can be in flight at any given time.
I have previously agreed to do the supervised visits; to pick him up and to then pick up Roberta.
Indeed we had two visits last week that went quite well.
I am still amenable to do this with reasonable notice. (18-24 hour notice).
Sincerely
BlahBlahBlah...
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So, there you have it...
I will be going downtown with it shortly.
XOXO
Me aka "BlahBlahBlah"
I just don't believe this!!! How in the hell can they just totally ignore the fact that this guy is a registered sex offender? Doesn't matter what gender or age he prefers, he's still a sex offender and is not suppose to be around minors of any gender. Please know that all are in my thoughts and prayers and hope that the welfare system gets their heads outta their arses before something unspeakable happens. Make sure you have license plate numbers of any and all vehicles that they could use in the event they try to flee. I'm beyond words and if I could, I'd reach through the internet and choke the living crap out of a few people!
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ReplyDeleteLicense plates?
But she associates with no one that has a license anymore.
sigh...
SO-O-O-O-O-O... I guess that leaves the bus station.
I am NOT above staking the joint out either.
I just hope i can find a lil piece of grass for Punk to go pee.
XOXO
Me
UPDATE:
ReplyDeleteI have heard back from the supervisor at CPS.
She told me that this is none of my business anymore.
WTF?
Here is part of that somewhat 'curt' reply:
"I am not able to provide you with any feedback or updates surrounding our involvement and steps taken to address the safety.
However, I can assure you that I have addressed your concerns with the child protection intake worker and do feel that she has covered her basis in her practice and addressing many of the concerns that you have brought to our attention.
Please feel free to contact me in the future if you have any other issues that you would like to discuss."
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Hells bells, I cannot even 'discuss' this now!
What the hell does she mean to call on her or "contact" her in the future?
BIG SIGH!
Love to all,
And of course many MANY thanks for your thoughts and prayers, not only for Master Gabriel, but for myself and Casey as well.
XOXO
Me
Uh, excuse me but the safety and well being of a very small young man lies in the balance here! Who the hell does she think she is telling you in not so many words that this is of no concern to you? A registered sex offender is involved and they say they've done everything they can? I say get a lawyer and file for custody of Master Gabriel. You definitely have enough information to do so.
ReplyDeleteWill keep all of you in my prayers especially Master Gabriel. I hate the idea that his mother doesn't give a damn that she is allowing a registered sex offender around her child.
Oh, I have proof, it's as easy as looking it all up online and going from there...
ReplyDeleteBut I cannot say enough BS about CPS in this county...
(Or at least MY experiences thus far with them).
But hey, I knew there would be battles about this all, and I am prepared to see it through.
I hate that fact too.
Glad to hear that!! Don't give up whatever ya do. Will check back in when I get home from work. Been a long week here trying to find some sense of normalcy after Ike reared his ugly head here. What a mess! Take care and prayers and positive energy heading your way! Stay strong dear friend!
ReplyDeleteWell, bust my bubble!!! I cannot seem to get away from "realities" like this. Every time I turn around I find out another piece of information about our broken system, government... world.
ReplyDeleteAll I can seem to muster up for you Anne is that I am sorry, so very sorry that NOTHING seems to work right. Everything is hard when your standing on the right side of right. So I guess thats the only consolation, you know your on the right side as long as its the harder fight. God said the right way was hard....he wasnt kidding.....keep fighting....the rewards are great.
Love to you!!!
Sweet Beth!
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, I KNEW there was something terribly wrong when I did not hear from you in so very long- Guess I should have paid more attention to the weather after everything that happened.
I am sorry that I didn't. Both you and Doubtfire had many IKE problems...
And yes, I have been running my fool arse off too.
Now about what I quoted above???
That sounds almost like I should also say "Your lips to Gods Ears"
Love to all.
XOXO
Me
It's no biggie. I guess I have taken so many mini vacations from blogging that noone really noticed IKE blew away my connection to the world for 4 days. I signed on this morning and it was business as usual. No questions asked, no emails from worried souls. Thank YOU for missing me, otherwise, I think I could have been run over by a truck and noone online would notice my absence.
ReplyDeleteYou, of all people, were one I did not expect to miss me.....for I know of the hell your enduring these days, go figure : )
I am praying for you, and all involved.....today and always.
Oh my!!! As if you didn't have enough to cope with. I can't believe you have to sort all this out as well. I can understand how frightened you are, and you must be going through a million stages of hell trying to protect your beautiful boy. Like you, it amazes me why Roberta can't see the danger she's putting her son in. Maybe it's a self made mental block she's put up. If she's safe, then G will be too? Who knows!
ReplyDeleteI'm ashamed that I thought a twisted foot was a problem!
My prayers are with you all. xxxx