Good Evening...
I am (almost) lost for words.
(I owe you BIGTIME if you can even get through the whole sordid mess)!
I know a lady that goes to the same pain center that Casey and I do.
She is a very nice lady. Well, unless you cross her. hehehe
(I really HAD to include that- As a show of deep respect and admiration).
She went in yesterday to get her prescriptions renewed for another month.
* Note:
If you have never gone to a pain management specialist doctor, you must go in every 30 days to have your pain meds refilled.
Upon your arrival to the clinic, they have a questionnaire for you to fill out, about 5 pages of different stuff.
You MUST fill every page completely.
I respect that they have you do this- Not for their own culpability, but to refresh the patients mind also.
One of the pages states something to the effect of, "I know it is harmful & dangerous to abruptly discontinue the use of these medications without doctor recommendation, supervision and guidance."
You must check each box that you have read it each time.
You must sign every page etc etc etc.
Thus begins her visit... Normal so far. hehehe
* Another Note:
She does not see her regular NP, rather an extra they have. New perhaps?
She indicates how much pain she has still been having- She is on extended~release morphine, in addition to something else for her breakthrough pain. I believe it is either oxycodone or vicoden.
This NP "ups" the morphine claiming that it "is less addictive" than her other pill that she takes for breakthrough pain; that when she hurts more, she should take an extra morphine pill instead of the other.
I really am at a loss to explain that to her. Hearing this makes no sense to me... But surely they know better than I do?
SO I remain mute. hehehe Really I do.
(Know that I will look it up for her- there has to be something online).
Since she had enough medications to last for exactly 30 days, she has none left. Keep in mind that going off either of these narcotics "cold turkey" as they say, will be dangerous to do.
She takes her 30 day refills prescriptions with her, and off to her pharmacy.
She has gotten these same meds refilled for a long time already, and at the same pharmacy.
They know her on sight, by name, and tell her the meds will be ready for pickup in about 20 minutes.
When she returns, she is told that her insurance will not pay for these medications.
One is $319.+. Another is $250.+, the third is $112.+
She asks, "Why not"
Stating, "They have always done so in the past?"
The pharmacy explains she must contact her doctor and her insurance company, and straighten this out. That they have no idea.
She contacts both places; leaving a message at the doctors office, and being put on hold at the insurance company 3 times for an extended period of time. So the insurance company is basically unreachable. (She was on hold 20 minutes at one point).
The doctors office calls her back. They agree to do any/all interceding on her behalf.
Later, the doctors office calls again, saying that it is all handled and that she will have her meds by that night.
She calls the pharmacy.
Nothing was ready. Nor had it even been approved with the insurance!
She tells them to "please run it again" because she already knows it is approved.
Thinking that she will be fine until morning, she calls back the next day.
Her prescriptions have not been processed, approved, or filled.
Many "pass-the-buck" phone calls later, this is what she knows"
- The doctor tells her that it is in the pharmacy's hands.
- The pharmacy tells her it is in the insurance company's hands.
- The insurance company now tells her it is not a covered drug. (She will not be put through to a supervisor either).
- She has received these same meds many times and they were ALWAYS covered.
- She has received these same meds many times and they were ALWAYS covered.
Again, I am at a loss for words.
She has been going to this pharmacy for her entire life. The pharmacy knows her. They have always gotten their money from her and/or her insurance.
This is a medicare advantage policy by the way.
Medicare Advantage policies are NOT Medicare. They are only a supplemental policy TO Medicare, and have nothing to do with the government.
This insurance company is on the east coast. With another phone call she learns that they apparently have not processed anything for 3 days, and are trying to catch up- The snowstorm put everything back, and they had been closed for those 3 days.
She cannot wait 3 days for her medications! To do so would jeopardize not only her pain, and her well being, but would add some very physical and nasty withdrawals to it.
She asks the pharmacy to please give her enough meds to cover those 3 business days, that she would pay for them herself.
No can do. It's all or nothing.
WHAT?!?
So... Who the hell is lying, and why?
Please know this is not Casey; although she has had her own problems with this clinic- Not ever with the doctor himself, but more specifically with the NP's (Nurse Practitioners). Lord knows the damned doctor doesn't have any time to spend with his patients to be able to piss them off in the 1st place.
Is your mind boggled yet?
This lady is also Native American- Choosing to use CVS instead of the clinic pharmacy because it is much closer to her home.
She calls the tribal pharmacy- Do they have these meds in stock?
Yes.
She calls CVS and asks for her written and signed scripts back, telling them when she would be there to pick them up.
She picks them up- One is written on, (the one she is already sick from withdrawing from), but they have attached a note for the Native Pharmacy to call them.
All is well.
She has her medications. (With a big smile from the pharmacist too)!
- CVS has lost a very loyal customer. Her monthly medications are over $8800.00 annually. Now add in a sickness, or stitches, or a broken bone to that.
- In addition to herself, lose her parents, her children, and grandchildren to add that lo$$ for CVS.
- In addition to herself, lose her parents, her children, and grandchildren to add that lo$$ for CVS.
- My guess is that the pain clinic will lose her also.
- They lied to each other, one telling the other that it was all taken care of and covered.
- They lied to each other, one telling the other that it was all taken care of and covered.
- She will also change her secondary insurance at the end of the year.
Do these insurance companys actually make people withdraw from their meds? Is that even legal?
Or like the one gal said to her, "well lady, we are not doctors!"
Somethings not right!
What's YOUR take?
Whose mess is this?
Is that NP correct about morphine being less addictive than the others?
Know that you are not permitted to be at a loss for words since I already am.
~<;-)
XOXO
Me
Life goes on...
I should not have said "all is well." But she DOES at least have her prescriptions, and that is a relief to her.
It will take some time for these drugs to actually help her again.